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Sorry for being ignorant but sincere question: where / which culture considers the V gesture offensive? I'm assuming the V gesture you are referring to is the one that consists of holding up both index finger and middle finger, rather than the one with thumb and index finger.
IIRC you aren't supposed to hitchhike with a thumbs up in New Zealand, so I'm guessing we're dealing with a Kiwi. :)
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> invention of 4chan They set out to transform a symbol, and they succeeded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol If you think it isn't real because it was made up, Vonnegut's Mother Night has you covered: "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
They only succeeded if you let them. And if you do I'm going to think less of you for enabling them. Right now this new 'perception' is pretty limited to a certain US-centric news bubble. Everyone outside that bubble in the US, and generally people everywhere else, are likely to laugh in your face if you tried to convince them the OK gesture is a hate symbol now. Your average person hasn't even heard of this inane co…
The swastika was a symbol of good luck, the infinity of creation and the unconquered, revolving sun for millennia. Now it's the symbol of the Nazi party and their atrocities. It's not fair, but that's how symbols work. Their meanings can change when new meanings are ascribed to them.
https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2018/09/18/ok-sign-white...
If a bunch of far-right dipshits want to rally around a cartoon frog and what used to be an innocuous hand gesture, then the meaning of those symbols is going to shift. You're the one playing into their hand. You're the one letting the cryptos remain crypto, instead of illuminating and naming their behavior, for shame.
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> invention of 4chan They set out to transform a symbol, and they succeeded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol If you think it isn't real because it was made up, Vonnegut's Mother Night has you covered: "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
They only succeeded if you let them. And if you do I'm going to think less of you for enabling them. Right now this new 'perception' is pretty limited to a certain US-centric news bubble. Everyone outside that bubble in the US, and generally people everywhere else, are likely to laugh in your face if you tried to convince them the OK gesture is a hate symbol now. Your average person hasn't even heard of this inane co…
It's impossible to take these claims seriously. The media will publish anything that gets clicks, no matter how exaggerated or even fabricated, the people making up these claims know they'll get instant coverage and spread their 'cause', and the people spreading the idea that some loser somewhere saying "uh, the middle finger stands for the monolithic purity of the white race" is actually a threat to the fabric of society just enjoy having another thing to be morally panicked by.
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This scene is a particular pet peeve of mine (I know it's a movie, but everyone needs something to be picky about...). The character played by Fassbender at one point explains his peculiar accent by being born and raised in a village near Piz Palü (an hommage by Tarantino to "White Hell of Piz Palü" a 1929 silent movie). However, this mountain is located in Switzerland, right by the italian border, far away from Germ…
You could be born in Switzerland to German parents, thus being German (with a funny accent to boot). Germany (at the time) employed jus sanguinis (=your parents matter), not jus soli (=your place of birth matters). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
This could explain the accent/dialect, but it would definitely raise more eyebrows than ordering a beer with the wrong finger.
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You could be born in Switzerland to German parents, thus being German (with a funny accent to boot). Germany (at the time) employed jus sanguinis (=your parents matter), not jus soli (=your place of birth matters). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_soli
There had also been quite a few Swiss volunteers that fought in the army and the Waffen-SS.[1] In the context of the special interest that the film devotes to the subject of language, locating the birthplace of the character near Piz Palü is also a very clever move. It is located in the canton of Graubünden (canton of the Grisons), which is the only trilingual Swiss canton (German, Italian and Romansh). Another side-…
Some of the scenes (landscape shots and the avalanche/crevasses action sequences) hold up quite well IMO.
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For the same reason people like him fly the Army of Northern Virginia Battle Flag (which was carried into battle against the Nazis). It makes people like you upset, which is hilarious to them.
Let's see, that flag was used for: 1. An army supporting the continuation of the enslavement of black peoples. 2. A group (KKK) who would ride out and lynch black people. 3. A very small number of people who fought Nazis. 4. Neo-nazis. 1 out of 4 isn't bad, I suppose...
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They were so successful at marketing the idea that the "ok" sign meant White Power that white nationalists started using it that way and the meaning shifted. And since a lot of the 4chan people are deeply racist they were basically saying "let's take over this symbol". And they succeeded.
As far as I know 4chan people were trolling the media and they succeeded. The result is both funny and scary. The scary part is that random people's lives are harmed because of some innocent photo or gesture. This insanity stems not only from media but also the new culture. Hopefully when going back to normality we will not swing too much to the other side.
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> If you had flashed OK hand gesture... thought you were a member of a fringe group? For what it's worth, this hand sign being a hate dogwhistle is pretty much entirely an invention of 4chan.
> invention of 4chan They set out to transform a symbol, and they succeeded. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OK_gesture#White_power_symbol If you think it isn't real because it was made up, Vonnegut's Mother Night has you covered: "We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be.”
I really like the Chinese way of counting. As far as I remember you can go as high as 99 on both hands. Still, I'm never able to memorise it, no matter how many times I learn it.
Basically they do the "normal" 1-5 with one hand (well, one of the several normal ways), then have specific gestures for 6-10 with one hand as well. Use both hands and you get to 100, I suppose.
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Exactly. The Trump crowd is made up of bullies, trolls, middle class frat boys and other antisocials, while various influencers are feeding them ideas. And horse medicine.
> The Trump crowd is made up of bullies, trolls, middle class frat boys and other antisocials And millions of others who don't fit a single one of those othering statements > And horse medicine. Also human medicine for several decades, with perfectly safe dosages and formulations. Please don't spread misinformation.
- the aforementioned crowd’s ”others” are being deceived in many ways, and my ”othering statements” are just fine to describe people who enable the aforementioned ”non-others” (also, is ”others” not an othering statement? why don’t you call them marks instead?)
- Ivermectin is indeed safe for humans to take, BUT people are indeed taking the HORSE formulation, not the HUMAN formulation
- Ivermectin may even show slight effectiveness against active covid infection, BUT the jury is still very much out on that one