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Surveilance bill rushed through Australian parliament in 24 hours

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Post by morganvachon »

vngzs wrote: post #110
morganvachon wrote: post #99

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Agreed, which sucks because no other service out there is better at their prices. And I have everything important tied to that address. I have never been to Australia and don't ever plan to, but the fact that any government can legally plant data on my account and then try to prosecute me for it is scary as hell. Given that Australia and the US are part of the "Five Eyes", it's not a stretch to believe they can const…

Stop allowing email providers to control the domain of your email. Buy a $10/year domain and point it at GitHub pages (so it gains some trustworthiness). Send your email to that domain, and point the MX records at a mail provider (Fastmail or GMail or ProtonMail, doesn't matter).

I own several domains, and I have two valid email addresses at two personal domains hosted with a small US hosting provider, but I don't want those to end up in spammer lists so I use them sparingly. For a main email address I'm better off with a large email-focused provider that has tools to handle all the spam that builds up from an address used for online purchases and forum/social accounts, and as I mentioned Fastmail has the absolute best tools for managing all of that. Gmail is not an option, nor Microsoft.

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Post by axguscbklp »

TameAntelope wrote: post #82
nemo44x wrote: post #26

It's a good thing everyone surrendered their firearms to this same government. Once they know you can't resist anything they can do anything to you. I'm guessing NZ is next now that they've confiscated nearly every firearm they could.

I've always found talking about firearms in response to a legislative body acting to be reactionary and shortsighted, but also a little humorous, in a sad kind of way. I wonder if you realize you're intimating, even obliquely, that you'd be willing to kill cops, soldiers, and democratically elected officials for performing their duties because you individually don't agree with their decisions. In other words, you're…

Officials being democratically elected does not necessarily mean anything - in theory, a majority of the population could vote to literally enslave a minority of the population. I think that it is fair for a minority of the population to have some threshold beyond which they are willing to use force if necessary even if by doing so they are going against the wishes of the majority.

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Post by hajile »

majormajor wrote: post #39
maerF0x0 wrote: post #32

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Democracy leads to dumb laws. It's a tyranny of the bottom 51%ile. I say this a little tongue in cheek, but it's a real problem I've yet to understand -- how can an outlier intelligent person thrive in a system that caters to the masses? The masses have an incentive to drain any marginal value out of the intelligent, and have the political power to do so. Edit: @majormajor sorry HN wont let me reply. The reason would…

Why would the bottom 51% have more influence than the top 51% or the middle 25-76% or whatever other random fraction you pull out of your butt?

Most of the early Federalist papers deal with this problem of democracy in very damning terms. It leads to failures of the state -- usually within a hundred or so years. That is why the US decided to be a Republic instead.

Outside the US, countries after WW1/2 opted for democracies instead of republics with strong foundations. We're witnessing the point of failure due to the exact issues outlined in those papers.

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Post by SamoyedFurFluff »

xxpor wrote: post #128
aplummer wrote: post #102

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The 5km thing is real while the lockdown is in effect. Keep in mind it’s different to America, you get paid decent money from the state to stay at home. Whether or not the ~20 000 lives saved from these lockdowns comes down to opinion in the end.

> Keep in mind it’s different to America, you get paid decent money from the state to stay at home. I wish this meme would die. People in the US got paid decent money too. The federal gov spent $3 trillion more on transfer payments in Q1 2021 than it did in Q4 2019. This is more than a doubling. That's nearly $17,000 for every human in the US. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/B087RC1Q027SBEA

How can that be possible when we only had like a few hundred in checks, or some few hundred in additional unemployment for people who were unemployed?

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Post by axguscbklp »

krapp wrote: post #129
nemo44x wrote: post #101

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It’s not about shooting them but rather deterring them from totalitarian government. That our ruling bodies understand there are lines and boundaries.

And yet American gun owners also tend to be the Americans who most believe their government is already totalitarian. Maybe they think waving their guns around just stops things from getting worse?

It possibly does stop things from getting worse, but it is hard to know whether it does or it does not because there is no way to make a copy of the United States, remove private gun ownership in the copy, and then see how things play out.

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Post by UnseenTraveller »

eplanit wrote: post #68

There and New Zealand both. The responses (extreme lockdown) of both countries to Covid has been nothing short of insane.

I promise you, Australians and Kiwis don't need advice from Americans on how to keep citizens safe.

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Post by BoppreH »

Can we change the URL of this post to a more normal news website?

The current one is a blog post from an email provider company, not a journalistic entity.

It has unnecessary hyperbole ("End of Human Rights"), and has a clear conflict of interest given that they provide secure email services and one of their main competitors (FastMail) is Australian. (though I do share their concerns)

I find @jpollock's links a good replacement.

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Post by jonny_eh »

bitreality wrote: post #103
artursapek wrote: post #43

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You really think any of what's going on in Australia is the will of the people?

They have people voting over 3% tax increases and gay marriage, not surveillance. Doesn't matter who you vote for, every party is in favor of increasing their power.

So which country is better in that regard?
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