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Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by willcipriano »

nebula8804 wrote: post #111
willcipriano wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The guys who rip it to YouTube cut out the commercials, and NewPipe delivers the audio feed ad free. I'm not a big Rogan guy but even if I paid for Spotify I'd probably watch it that way.

Is there some reliable source of his podcasts on Youtube? Like a hidden channel or something that won't be taken down by copyright requests every 5 seconds?

A search for "Joe Rogan Full Podcast" (Full is a magic word on YouTube for this sort of thing, "Full Movie" "Full Episode" etc) typically works for me, but you may have to warm up the recommendation algorithm so it recommends similar channels to what you have watched before (ie. fly by night channels hosting ripped podcasts).

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by chrisco255 »

Spotify is just not set up for long-form video content. The discovery aspect of YouTube is one reason why it reels you in. You're scrolling through your feed, you see an interesting clip, and you click on it. Another big part of YouTube is the comment section. Spotify lacks on both fronts. I also think the JRE clips were a big part of what sucked people into watch full epsiodes. If a 5-7 minute JRE clip were interesting I might jump in and watch the whole episode. I don't think they've done that or done it as well on Spotify.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by criddell »

laurent92 wrote: post #114
pleb_nz wrote: post #74

8m not sure how his podcasts were distributed previously, but I would have thought a more multiplatform approach would work better long term. A lot of people don't have Spotify, I'm one of those, for the same price as Spotify I can get YouTube premium for me and the extended family, kill all ads, allow downloads and access to a decent music streaming catalog. Last time I checked the prices were not to dissimilar.

I think he was promised $100m for the Spotify exclusivity. No multiplatform works better than $100m ;)

It has also been argued Joe sold out at way too low of a price.

https://www.supercast.com/blog/joe-rogan-got-ripped-off

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by paulcole »

S_A_P wrote: post #129
xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

He’s always been up and down that road. I don’t agree with Joe on a lot of things but I don’t know that is his goal. If there is one thing that I think Joe does reasonably well- its to have you consider your stance and reasons for feeling that way. I think it’s healthy to reflect on why you take stances on things like politics, culture and religion. Joe admits that he is “a cage fighting commentator” and while I thin…

> Joe admits that he is “a cage fighting commentator” and while I think he self labels that way to sometimes get away with fringe viewpoints

This is the same way John Stewart and Stephen Colbert hid behind, "I'm just a comedian." It's a great strategy if you can pull it off.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by timr »

xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

> his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to

I listen to his show sometimes, and while I've heard him have guests on from all sides of these issues, at no point have I heard him be anything less than a thoughtful, critical interviewer.

If that's "drivel", we need more drivel. I'll certainly take it over everything I see on cable news, which is laser-focused on advancing a particular narrative, and demonizing anything and anyone who might deviate from that narrative.

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by bostonsre »

yellow_lead wrote: post #84
markus_zhang wrote: post #63

The ones with Carmack and an ex-pilot (regarding UFO) were interesting. Other than that I really didn't have any knowledge of. It's more of the people he interviewed then his channel.

It's even hard to listen to these. I have heard enough of Rogan's "Wow!" and "Really?" to last a lifetime.

Lex did one [1] with the same pilot that saw the ufo (commander fravor). I went from "no friggin way do they exist" to "shit... it actually sounds plausible".

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB8zcAttP1E

Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by TaupeRanger »

sakopov wrote: post #122
xutopia wrote: post #48

To be fair... his move to Spotify coincided with him spewing more and more anti-vax and anti-mask drivel that I don't have any interest in listening to.

Yeah, to be fair, that never happened. What did happen is him saying that if you're older you should stay home and if you're younger you should be alright with masks, which at the time was the same message that you'd hear in the media.

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Re: Joe Rogan, confined to Spotify, is losing influence

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Post by ed25519FUUU »

lanevorockz wrote: post #94

Joe Rogan knew his days on Big Tech Pravda were counted ... he took his audience and went to Spotify where he took the profit upfront. Much smarter than most people that only follow the leader and don't have one shred of critical thought.

This sounds right to me. Big tech is very eager to deplatform anyone who holds contrarian views against the status quo, and this is especially true with regards to vaccine and politics.

In some ways being on Spotify with a multimillion dollar contract actually offers some decent protection. Hopefully he's got a good contract.

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