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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Why isn't the alternative to keep your TV off the network?

For now, that works. It's easy to imagine a time when the TV includes it's own 5G modem or that Samsung would make a deal with Amazon or Comcast for access to their wifi mesh networks so the TV can get online without user intervention.

I once moved across the ocean and newly purchased LG TV refused to work because I am now in the wrong region. Off it went to a landfill, this perfect piece of hardware :-(

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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post #77

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I read some other thread on here some time ago that talked about the option of using a Pi-hole (or so?) to block smart TV ads.

Some TV manufacturers have gotten wise to this ( sigh ) and started hard-coding their DNS lookup IPs.

> Some TV manufacturers have gotten wise to this (sigh) and started hard-coding their DNS lookup IPs.

Is there a list of such manufactures? Don't want to accidentally buy one of their products.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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I bought a high-end Samsung 4K tv in 2015 or so for about $3000. I picked it after a week of research that showed it had the highest quality panel. After taking delivery of the TV, we noticed it had bright lower left and right corners that we later found out were due to new packaging that pinched the TV and caused most of the TVs in that batch to be ruined. Samsung claimed that the corners were "in spec" and refused…

Samsung's appliances have a pretty bad reputation in general, especially the refrigerators and side loading washing machines.

Never again will I buy anything Samsung.

They have steadfastly refused to fix my fridge's ice maker even though they have admitted it's a design fault, and retailers will not take it back as faulty because the ice maker is not considered vital to the functioning of the refrigerator in general.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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"Should a customer’s TV be incorrectly blocked, the functionality can be reinstated once proof of purchase and a valid TV license is shared to serv.manager@samsung.com or click here for more information" Fuck off. This is a wake up call for us to make free and open source Smart TV operating system so we can stop this tyranny.

This is a wake up call for us to make free and open source Smart TV operating system so we can stop this tyranny. Or to just stop buying "Smart" televisions. People on HN like to say that buying a regular display panel without any of the "smart" features is cost-prohibitive, but it isn't. A few months ago I did some comparison shopping on B&H, and the price difference was very small. Sometimes within sales tax range.…

> People on HN like to say that buying a regular display panel without any of the "smart" features is cost-prohibitive, but it isn't

My argument is the opposite. It can be very difficult to find a dumb TV that actually has a high-end panel in it.

One avenue is the digital signage models, but they can be super expensive, and are not always available via normal retail channels.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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No-one forces you to connect your "smart" TV to the network... You can just use it as a "dumb" TV and connect anything on it (such as a Raspberry Pi) to do the "smart" things. I have an old Toshiba smart TV from >7 years ago that I bought second-hand for 100€, and while it is doing great as a dumb TV I would never connect it to the network considering there have been no firmware update for years and that the current…

Just wait till your Samsung TV phones in to your Samsung mobile to share wifi credentials. It's zero click convenience!

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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"Should a customer’s TV be incorrectly blocked, the functionality can be reinstated once proof of purchase and a valid TV license is shared to serv.manager@samsung.com or click here for more information" Fuck off. This is a wake up call for us to make free and open source Smart TV operating system so we can stop this tyranny.

> This is a wake up call for us to make free and open source Smart TV operating system so we can stop this tyranny. Why does the TV have to be smart? Having the smarts integrated into the TV requires that 2 components be replaced if either no longer meets the user's needs. Lets make a really nice large format display with no smarts or connectivity and then let the user choose an Apple TV, Roku, Fire, Android, or what…

This! I'm never buying any kind of smart TV again. I currently have one those TCL TVs with Roku built in and it sucks. All of the apps on it are slow, the menu/home/OS is slow. This could just be a overall Roku thing but I'll never buy either a Roku or a "smart tv" again.

I mainly use Apple TV and PS4 to access all of the streaming services. They are slick, fast, and responsive.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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This technology was used for good this time, but there's nothing stopping it from being used for evil next time. The fact that Samsung is even capable of doing this means you don't have control over your Samsung TV even if you do own it legally.

Cars and phones both can be remotely disabled. This will reduce help crime in the long run.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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I bought one of Samsung's smart televisions a couple years ago. I think I paid $1500 for it. Anyway, it started showing me ads and the TV eventually became sluggish less than a month after owning it. Returned it as defective. Ever since that experience, I swore of all smart televisions and will never buy another Samsung television or smartphone again if I can help it.

You can't really avoid smart TVs these days. Any model that has a good picture quality will have a higher end chipset, and with that higher end chipset TV manufacturers are just rolling Android since they largely don't have to worry about the UI etc.

Technically, all you should have to do is not enable Wifi/Ethernet and you're good to go. But I wouldn't put it past Samsung to look for open APs or connected Samsung products and secretly funnel data via that channel.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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I bought one of Samsung's smart televisions a couple years ago. I think I paid $1500 for it. Anyway, it started showing me ads and the TV eventually became sluggish less than a month after owning it. Returned it as defective. Ever since that experience, I swore of all smart televisions and will never buy another Samsung television or smartphone again if I can help it.

I bought a high-end Samsung 4K tv in 2015 or so for about $3000. I picked it after a week of research that showed it had the highest quality panel. After taking delivery of the TV, we noticed it had bright lower left and right corners that we later found out were due to new packaging that pinched the TV and caused most of the TVs in that batch to be ruined. Samsung claimed that the corners were "in spec" and refused…

I've vowed not to buy samsung 3 times now, every time I've been burned. This time it's for real

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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post #127

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> You have recourse by showing proof of purchase How does that help when the product is out of warranty? > Or you sue them. How exactly would you go about suing Samsung. Figure that out and let us know if it would be worth it for a TV.

> > You have recourse by showing proof of purchase >How does that help when the product is out of warranty? This is for TVs that were recently stolen. They'd definitely be in warranty (short of you not buying from an authorized reseller because you bought it out of the back of a truck), and you're reasonably likely to have the receipt.

While TFA focuses on recently stolen goods, the broader concern here is the invasive remote control that Samsung has over your device. The concerns I'm reading in this thread include Samsung turning on invasive advertising, remote bricking, and possibly monitoring your media consumption.

So in light of the relevant debate here, how exactly does a proof-of-purchase help if the product is out of warranty?

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