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Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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The comparison of one time vs subscription wouldn't be $15 vs $15 but more like $500 vs $15.

In what world is a browser worth $500? For comparison, a complete operating system (eg. windows) has cost around $200, and this was applicable even in windows 98 days, before microsoft was trying to monetize it using ads/telemetry.

Probably more like $5000. Have you considered how insanely complicated browsers are? It’s a miracle they’re free.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#142
Does anyone here identify as the target market for this product? I feel like "professional users" use Vivaldi or configure Firefox to do everything that this product tries to do.

Very curious why YC backed this and what market share they were trying to capture.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

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post #141
post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what world is a browser worth $500? For comparison, a complete operating system (eg. windows) has cost around $200, and this was applicable even in windows 98 days, before microsoft was trying to monetize it using ads/telemetry.

Probably more like $5000. Have you considered how insanely complicated browsers are? It’s a miracle they’re free.

Well the reality is that there are two browser engines that are free and open source. If they built their own that was better than the incumbents (eg. from performance/privacy point of view), then I might consider it. But I'm not paying $5000 for a chrome reskin, just like I won't pay $5000 for a debian reskin.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#144

The negativity in this thread is extremely distasteful. :/ Just want to say, I think what can differentiate this from other browsers + extensions will come down to how well-integrated all of it is. Tab fatigue for work browsers is real and if this helps solve that, then it's worth it. From what I see on your landing page, the UX / workflow looks extremely attractive. Couple of things, a) I do think the $15 per month…

Thanks!

We're still workshopping the pricing model, but do give the free trial a go and let us know what you think!

There's the standard web inspector at the moment. What would you like to see for dev tools?

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#145

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Sorry to hear that, in terms of the trial we wouldn’t take your payment details until your trial runs out. In terms of your email we don’t use it for marketing or spam, it is more for being able to record your feedbacks you send us in app. But as soon as you want them delted you can request it and we quickly delete everything for u

No ofense, but I wish you all luck with this model. It is not meant for us who work on IT, we have to work with several browsers. This is more for the end consumer like.

No offence taken at all. really appreciate you still taking the time to check us out :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#146
$15 a month is too much for me to consider switching from Safari. Although I'm looking for a decent browser-replacement, because of the update interlock.

I don't mind paying for software, but for $15 I'd expect Browser + full blown google internet search alternative + privacy.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#147
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Cool concept, I wonder removing the price from the website will help with conversion (a la superhuman). A lot of people are probably not even trying it because they haven't see the value of the product yet.

Heya, appreciate this. We hope people are at least honest enough with their feedback that they try something before making judgment on it :)

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#148
This really feels like it would have had a better time with a smaller "meet the batch" thread. Given that which startups get to be featured in one of those threads rather than a standalone thread is decided by dang, it almost feels like this thread was intentionally greenlit standalone to start a flamewar. The odds of that are slim, probably, but it seems impossible that anyone thought this was a good idea to give its own thread rather than a smaller and more under-the-radar spot in a group thread.

It's so early that it has support for effectively a single version of a single operating system (it isn't even an OS X web browser, it's a macOS browser), it doesn't have ad blocking or extensions, it doesn't look like it fits the HIG of any operating system, let alone the one it was apparently purpose-built for, it really drastically needs a designer, and to top it off it's got a subscription model in a genre of software that has never worked well at even a one-time price.

There has never been an iteration of HN that would have given this product at this stage of its development anything but a disaster of a thread. I'm not going to insult the product (I doubt I'd say anything that someone else hadn't already said), but I can't see how anything productive or useful would have or could have possibly came about from this thread.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#149
One thing that I've noticed is when the comments for a Launch HN or Show HN is overwhelmingly negative, that usually the product captures a usecase that people have wanted or hacked together themselves but haven't productionized or monetized. Sometimes, it works out and sometimes it doesn't but it definitely makes me want to judge for myself.

Watched the video and the product looks great! I'll definitely give it a spin and congrats to everyone @ SigmaOS for a great launch.

Re: Launch HN: SigmaOS (YC S21) – A MacOS web browser designed for faster work

#150

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This makes me feel rickrolled. I clicked and only see a Mac version download link. The title should mention the platform if it's single-platform. In fact I even have a Mac but it's High Sierra and I'm not updating to Big Sur with all the questionable changes just to try a new browser.

Oh, sorry about that! Hopefully you give it a try when you update eventually :)

I will. Thank you for doing a great job anyway. I don't actually feel angry or demand anything from you, although I might sound this way. I just expressed my thoughts which many people obviously share.

May I, however, ask if there is a serious reason to require Big Sur instead of supporting Catalina, Mojave and High Sierra also? I understand you probably don't want to waste resources on actually supporting them but perhaps you could just build against them and let users use it on their own risk?

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