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The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

#141

Yes why can’t a mac control the volume of an external monitor on usb c/display port/thunderbolt. It’s completely ridiculous when you think about it, that such a fundamental and important requirement for so many users, is completely missing, in 2021!

Yup. Not being able to easily mute my speakers connected to my monitor was something that annoyed me greatly with my Mac mini.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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> “aimed at a niche market most of us don’t know much about.” Then Apple should have demonstrated the $1000 stand to those niche market separately instead of trying to sell the aspiration of 'Pro' devices to the consumer in an usual consumer event.

Apple didn’t announce it at an event for general consumers, they announced it at WWDC. WWDC is an Apple event, run by Apple, to announce Apple products. Not all Apple products are aimed at general consumers.

You're right, I stand corrected. It was a WWDC, hence original reaction from audience as opposed to usual scripted applause/laughter/camera pans.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Apple seems to be making a lot of display related things difficult lately. This, and Display Stream Compression are two. Just as high refresh and HDR were becoming really mainstream, Big Sur completely broke what was working flawlessly in Catalina (and it has not been fixed as of either 11.5, or the Monterey betas so far - and by completely broke, I mean does not work, at all, for anybody, not just 'some edge case').…

I dont understand, you want high bitrate accurate display to the point of actually considering XDR, but simultaneously you really want LOSSY compression? The not so secret secret of Display Stream Compression is it degrades picture quality.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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If your livelihood isn't dependent on that kind of a display, personally, I would try to avoid falling into their trap. I'd call it anti-competitive to have previously supported an industry standard, only to then remove that support and push their product as the only way to achieve an equivalent to that standard. I'm not saying the ProDisplay XDR isn't a good screen, or even overpriced in the class of displays it liv…

Precisely. I'd be very happy to have a ProDisplay. I may even buy it for the aesthetics (well, above and beyond everything else - I'm also a professional photographer). But as you say, it's more the attitude. I'm guessing whatever proprietary stuff they've done to drive the XDR at 6K in HDR isn't compatible with DSC, and there's little interest in fixing it.

XDR uses DSC on any RDNA (5X00) card, it’s not proprietary.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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I think the Pro Display XDR & stand were less “outrageous” and more “aimed at a niche market most of us don’t know much about.” People were expecting something consumer / prosumer and Apple made something aimed at the professional market.

> “aimed at a niche market most of us don’t know much about.” Then Apple should have demonstrated the $1000 stand to those niche market separately instead of trying to sell the aspiration of 'Pro' devices to the consumer in an usual consumer event.

If only all "Pro" Apple products were actually aimed at professionals. The trashcan was a disaster. The MBP line continues to be a sad joke.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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Although I'm not interested at all in brightness control and the different technologies you described, I really enjoyed reading your post. Your way of combining talking about technical issues with your personal life and challenges (your company job, having a side project along your day job, the winter cold near your house, etc.) made it possible for me to enjoy reading a post about something completely unrelated to m…

Thanks a lot! I guess that validates a bit my choice of style. I was afraid it might sound too story-like for such a technical subject.

You're welcome :) Ans since you deliberately chose this style, I'd be interested in learning from you (maybe in a new post) how you go about the process of writing.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

#147

Yes why can’t a mac control the volume of an external monitor on usb c/display port/thunderbolt. It’s completely ridiculous when you think about it, that such a fundamental and important requirement for so many users, is completely missing, in 2021!

FYI: https://lunar.fyi

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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It's a raw bus? It's like an operating systems idea of a network stack being to hand all software raw ethernet access. It is an obvious concurrency disaster once you have more than one application trying to access it, the data transmitted and control handed over is entirely opaque to the operating system (god knows what monitor vendors sneak over DDC) and most importantly all of these are absurdly low level implement…

https://www.google.com/search?q=macos+send+ethernet+frames&h... if you have root access, you should be allowed to have raw device access. the problem seems to be that apple no longer believes in users owning their computers, if it ever did.

Daily reminder that Jobs wanted one of their early computers (Lisa? Mac? Can't remember) to be bolted shut, until he was persuaded otherwise. Similar story with Apple II and expansion slots.

It's in their nature. Apple was bound to invent the iPhone.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

#149

Great write-up and a fun read. I was caught off guard by this note: > the delivery guy called me about a laptop: the custom configured M1 MacBook Pro that costed as much as 7 junior developer monthly salaries has arrived! I tried the MacBook Pro configurator and could only get up to $2300 USD (excluding optional software like Logic Pro). I’m sure the price and taxation are higher in the author’s country, but I still…

Dev says right at the top of the entry that they are writing from Romania. Quick Google shows an average software dev salary of 4800 USD per year. If that’s average, seems like 7x monthly of a junior salary checks out.

The minimum net salary in Romania is about €280, which is about $360, which is about $500 net. So $6000 per year net. And no (u abused) junior dev is going to be making minimum salary, that's janitor salary.

Re: The journey to controlling external monitors on M1 Macs

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It's too bad people keep trying to use the M1 for power user tasks. The hardware shortcuts and proprietary implementations make using the machine in anything but factory use cases tedious if not infeasible. Being able to change the backlight intensity shouldn't have to be a major accomplishment with unfixable sporadic hardware bugs.

Couldn't you say the same for any SoC? Or any non-free system?

Yes. They make bad computers to try to do actual work. They're fine DRM media streaming and social app thin clients.
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