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The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Interesting because it shows that bounce-back is a more significant ranking factor than before. It seems like they've manipulated rankings by locking people in to reduce their bounce-back stats (in addition to keyword-stuffed content)

That seems automatically testable. Load the site in simulator, then look at the URL history.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Correct, it was a typo

I don't know. I've tried reading the GPL2 & 3, and a lot of it just sounds like lawyer gibberish to me that could easily be attributed to GPT

Come on, no need to downvote this. It's just a silly joke 4 comments deep.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Some data on their traffic from some SEO tools I pay for: Ahrefs: 230k organic traffic valued at $124k SEMRush: 558k organic traffic valued at $355k These are estimates and can be widely under or overestimated but they show that this is happening on a very large scale. For a quick idea on how this is possible I looked at their top pages (according to Ahrefs). Their top page is ranking #2 for the keyword "interia" whi…

Interia is a large polish web portal, from what I could find. Norwegian people doesn't know it, but polish people might. There is probably around ~2 % polish people in Norway. It also ranks as #1 for me. It's in polish too, so basically only ~2 % of Norway would understand it. However, the weird thing it that it steals content from articles, and then outranks them. Most pages seems to be boosted, maybe as a result of…

The keyword data was based on searches in Norway alone, it is an order of magnitude higher in Poland. In Norway almost anybody could rank for that keyword if they tried due to the difficulty being different based on location and language.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Yeah, I've seen this domain a lot lately. But I've complained about the Norwegian results for years [0]. For most searches there will be a result that's just keyword spam ranking high. Retried my "pes anserinus bursitt" search now 2 years later, and two results are spam from havfruen, and there are some other results from https://no.amenajari .org which is also just translated and scraped content for all languages google seems to love, as I've seen it for years. A third domain I often see as well is "nem-varmepumper". Apparently a site about heat pumps has content on everything.

Can't fathom Google not catching this..

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21621099

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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I've seen the same here in Germany but they do appear only if you use the results within the last 24h functionality. It looks like the German content is generated through GPT2 or 3. It makes no real sense if you read it. If you go on the page you are immediately redirected to a scam just like the article mentions. Interestingly they use ".it" domains here. It also looks like the domains might have been hacked or are…

Interesting, I've been seeing the same spam for Norwegian searches, but with the domain nem-multiservice dot dk, or nem-varmepumper dot dk - presumably another legitimate business' domain that expired and was grabbed by the scammers. Visiting those domains show the same graphic as shown in the article.

Almost any search in Norwegian will have obvious scam sites like these in the top 10 results.

Other domains part of the same scam that show up in my results today: mariesofie dot dk, bvosvejsogmontage dot dk

I wonder if it is related to this: https://www.dk-hostmaster.dk/en/news/dk-hostmaster-takes-102...

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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post #140

Google search has progressively deteriorated in quality over the last 10 years, to the point where I see it becoming useless in the relatively near future. And it's mainly not even their fault. I've been using Google search for all kinds of research for 15 years. There used to be a time when you could find the answer to pretty much anything. I could find leaked source codes on public FTP servers, links to pirated sof…

> And it's mainly not even their fault.

It's precisely their fault, they've created an environment that incentivizes low quality, irrelevant content and are actively hostile towards users. Two examples just from top of my head: ignoring the country website, previously if you wanted to search only local news it was very easy to do. Another was ignoring completely the exact phrase search with double brackets.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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I find that using another search engine in that kind of situation is extremely useful! If I'm searching for more mainstream stuff google usually is great but when I'm going for more specialized topics duck duck go will usually bring up some different links!

Pretty much the only alternative to Google Search is Bing. That's even what DuckDuckGo uses behind the scenes.

Does this actually work though? Wouldn't the major search engines more or less look at the same information?

Or is there some thing that causes Bing to show different results? Perhaps the scammers build a network that targets google because it's bigger?

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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Who knows? It's a black box after all. ...but, you know. Can you see anything else they're doing that would give them that kind of ranking? These pages are just piles of crap, and google is pretty good at filtering that sort of stuff out. If it was that easy, google would be filled with spam everywhere. The chance that someone did something random thats very uncommon (block back) and it happened to be a super effecti…

Everyone and their mother blocks back buttons. Major news sites do it. There is no way that's what's ranking them this high.

Sites should be punished into oblivion for doing this. Why do browsers even allow it? Is there a legitimate use-case for this?

I am maintaining an SPA and the only thing I do is trying to not pollute history. But I'd never try to block the back button.

Re: The mermaid is taking over Google search in Norway

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For all that Google search has been utterly crap for going on a decade now, I have to admit part of the reason is that they get targetted relentlessly by SEO spam operations like this. I like DuckDuckGo for now, but I imagine as they get bigger they're going to be a target for these kinds of spam just the same.

Even worse, getting this kind of spam through to DDG (Bing?) seems easier than on Google

It seems DDG is worse at finding the more authoritative sites about a subject compared to Google.

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