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Re: Baltimore Museum of Art will host an exhibition curated by the museum's guards

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Post by dralley » Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 9:15 PM UTC

hellbannedguy wrote: post #111

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The Avon Barksdale gang is a professional, almost corporate empire. The inner circle is family but it runs from neighborhood boys as foot soldiers all the way up through a “COO” type (Stringer Bell) attending business school in the evenings. At one point the various gangs of Baltimore are amalgamated into a trade association that meets in hotel ballrooms and follows the Roberts Rules of Order. Leading to one of the g…

I love these commments. Now the distric attorney needs to tell the police to do their jobs. (Really tired of resources being wasted on marginal tickets/dui's, instead of zeroing in on real crime.)

If we're still talking about the Wire, it had quite a bit to say about the District Attorny's office as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAZZdL1qhk8

Re: Baltimore Museum of Art will host an exhibition curated by the museum's guards

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Post by jawarner » Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 9:57 PM UTC

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Humans need food, water, and shelter to survive. One can define an absolute concept of "paid well" meaning that these needs are met within a 40-hour work week. It is sad to me that this goal is considered a utopia by many.

Most people would call that a liveable income - not "paid well".

Yes, though once you factor in expenses like healthcare or contingency savings — both of which are also arguably necessary for a secure life — the line becomes more blurry.

Re: Baltimore Museum of Art will host an exhibition curated by the museum's guards

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Post by imgabe » Wed, Jul 21, 2021, 10:38 PM UTC

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Healthcare should not be tied to employment. Basic retirement is already provided by Social Security. We can also improve the ability of people to afford room and board by lowering the cost of them, for example by letting people build more housing. Without increasing the supply, providing an ever-increasing amount of money to pay for something will only raise its price.

> by letting people build more housing Are people not allowed to build houses currently?

In many places, no they are not.

Re: Baltimore Museum of Art will host an exhibition curated by the museum's guards

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Post by cafard » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 1:23 PM UTC

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Certainly, there is a media component to it. I live in Minneapolis. If you ask my relatives in wisconsin, they’d say that ‘Murder’apolis has been, and continues to be, a flaming hellhole of constant arson and carjackings ever since George Floyd was murdered. They watch local television news (with a sprinkling of Facebook garbage newsfeed) and don’t know enough to realize their entire mental model of the place is wild…

Portland, Oregon here. For a few years now if I'm out in the suburbs or conservative exurbs and tell people I live in the city, I hear, "sorry for you. Portland's a shithole." That view went national over the summer of 2020, with a lot of help from Fox news. (The president declaring our city an anarchy zone and sending in unmarked humvees with DC plates to black bag protesters didn't help). And yet it's an incredibly…

Resident of Washington, DC, here. When we moved into the city, a friend of my father's--both men had lived in DC in the 1950s--resident in Arlington said dire things. Now, parts of Arlington are great, and in other parts of Arlington gangs were going after each other with machetes. I cannot say that my part of DC is as safe as I'd like, but a lot of suburbanites--including some who could throw a football across the city line--have a pretty lurid picture.

Re: Baltimore Museum of Art will host an exhibition curated by the museum's guards

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Post by silicon2401 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 1:38 PM UTC

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Since you bring up NYC, LA, Philly, Baltimore is top 3 in list of total violent crimes whereas the other cities top out at 24 for DC, 25 for Philly, 32 for LA, and 59 for NYC. So Baltimore is in fact drastically different from NYC/LA/DC/Philly. You only proved my point. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_b...

"Total violent crimes" per 100000 population is a very blunt statistic that tell you very little about a city and virtually nothing about any particular neighborhood. It mashes together a lot numbers that mean different things to different demographics. And most importantly, those stats say absolutely nothing about the actual context of these crimes. Sorry you had a rough time in Baltimore. I was there through the O'…

I gave numbers and I gave context, and you have shown that you're not genuinely considering the idea that Baltimore might not be a great city for most people, you just have your opinion and aren't entertaining any alternatives. If you love Baltimore, great. But saying Baltimore is just another city when only 2 other cities in the entire country have more violence is like saying some country in the middle east some city in Pakistan isn't so bad because every city has bombings. Glad that comforts you, but it isn't true.

> There's no good reason to trash Baltimore or call any city "a hell-scape"

I will call Baltimore a hellscape 7 days of the week and I consider it 100% justified. I actively hope people don't move their for their own sake; I already left, it doesn't matter to me what happens there anymore.

I also encourage anybody who hasn't visited and doubts me to check for yourself and make your own opinion, not believe me or crispyambulance. Look up crime/violence statistics, reddit.com/r/baltimore, facebook groups, government corruption, illiteracy rates, crime maps, etc and decide for yourself whether what happens in Baltimore is "normal" for the US (let alone the entire world when there are many cities much bigger than Baltimore with a fraction of the crime).

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Post by dkn775 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 7:33 PM UTC

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there is this tee - Baltimore, Actually I Like It - you need it fam. Been here for 31 years, working in IT now, raising a family and all that. Balto is cool. https://atomicbooks.com/products/baltimore-actually-shirt

Is The Wire real?

The part about the police culture is Pretty spot on

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Post by dkn775 » Thu, Jul 22, 2021, 9:17 PM UTC

IggleSniggle wrote: post #96

spoonjim wrote: post #57

It’s cool but it feels a little noblesse oblige which I thought was a faux pas in the US? I thought you’re not supposed to acknowledge class boundaries?

Interesting take! The US is a very big place, closer to the European Union than it is generally portrayed. And, within the US, each city is its own complex ecosystem (as all cities are). In Baltimore, class boundaries and class-related issues are common discussion points. It is often painted in racial terms (especially to outside audiences), but it's pretty widely acknowledged from the inside that the racial issue is…

I agree with what you’re saying. The white blue collar “bawlmer” types are as critical to the culture of the city as our black population. I think the two groups have a nice symbiotic relationship in a way.

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Post by throwaway290232 » Fri, Jul 23, 2021, 4:51 PM UTC

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> The TV shows "The Wire" and especially "The Corner" capture the flavor of the rough parts of Baltimore more than residents would like to admit. I think The Wire was pretty accurate and a lot of Baltimoreans aren't in denial about what kind of city it was/is. However, if you're only hanging out and working with folks who don't leave the White L[1], you'd think the rest of Baltimore is pretty awful and if it wasn't f…

> Yet somehow there doesn't seem to be the same level of negativity about the city here. Baltimore has its merits… but Philly has a lot more going for it. (Source: currently in Balto, went to college in Philly).

> but Philly has a lot more going for it

You mean Jobs? Philly definitely has more. But I found Balto to have more going for it, despite being tiny in comparison. Culture-wise, Baltimore has loads of everything (except the "we're pretending we're NYC-lite" that DC and Philly push). There's loads of green spaces, festivals, multicultural cuisines/neighborhoods, industries. Baltimore even exceeded Philly in things like hackerspaces/makerspaces/tool libraries. And Balt has [some] free public transit! And though the history isn't pushed much, there's a ton of it all around. I'd also argue the Inner Harbor exceeds any Philly tourist district in terms of interesting ways to waste a saturday for a wide range of people. Then you've got the stadiums right near the harbor, the light rail to whisk you up into the lush suburbs, and more quirkiness and charm than practically any city in the US.

But I might be biased.