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Apple is the only laptop manufacturer that even gets close to 1000 cycles of great battery life.
Honestly, has anyone gotten 1000 out of a MacBook? Mine always goes to "service battery" around 300-400.
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Currently, "proper disposal" of most plastic producta means just dumping them in a landfill somewhere anyway.
Which isn't that bad. The oil came from under ground. Stick it back there and its not too bad. The real problem is when it ends up in rivers and oceans.
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Apple is the only laptop manufacturer that even gets close to 1000 cycles of great battery life.
Honestly, has anyone gotten 1000 out of a MacBook? Mine always goes to "service battery" around 300-400.
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Which isn't that bad. The oil came from under ground. Stick it back there and its not too bad. The real problem is when it ends up in rivers and oceans.
Sticking something back into the ground in a safe way is non-trivial. That is to say, expensive - more expensive than waste-management companies in developing countries care to pay. Among other things, you need to make sure it won't be broken down by UV radiation from the Sun, weathered by wind and washed into the rivers, and that nothing leaks out and reaches the water table.
You do realize the waste is created by global north capitalists (and consumed by global north capitalists and the working class), right? So why mention that it is expensive for global south countries ('developing countries'), as if it's ok that the burden of our waste is on them?
In other words the global south countries have to deal with their own waste, as well as being used as trash dump by the global north capitalists. And if they are creating a lot of waste, it's because they buy planned obsolescent black box products from global north companies (companies who 'kicked away the ladder' in the first place [1] [2]).
[1] https://anthempress.com/kicking-away-the-ladder-pb
[2] https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/5/6/rich-countries-d...
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Sticking something back into the ground in a safe way is non-trivial. That is to say, expensive - more expensive than waste-management companies in developing countries care to pay. Among other things, you need to make sure it won't be broken down by UV radiation from the Sun, weathered by wind and washed into the rivers, and that nothing leaks out and reaches the water table.
> Sticking something back into the ground in a safe way is non-trivial. That is to say, expensive - more expensive than waste-management companies in developing countries care to pay You do realize the waste is created by global north capitalists (and consumed by global north capitalists and the working class), right? So why mention that it is expensive for global south countries ('developing countries'), as if it's…
Wait, that's totally not what I wanted to say.
I mention it is expensive for companies there - companies operating there (including multinational), and companies shipping there. So they just don't do it, period. That they can get away with it is the very reason waste goes there, instead of staying in the West.
Of course I'm not blaming the developing countries: I'm blaming the companies of "global north capitalism" for exploiting the communities that can't afford to reject a deal that's ultimately bad from them. The problem is that the waste can be exported like this in the first place.
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> Sticking something back into the ground in a safe way is non-trivial. That is to say, expensive - more expensive than waste-management companies in developing countries care to pay You do realize the waste is created by global north capitalists (and consumed by global north capitalists and the working class), right? So why mention that it is expensive for global south countries ('developing countries'), as if it's…
> So why mention that it is expensive for global south countries ('developing countries'), as if the burden is on them? Wait, that's totally not what I wanted to say. I mention it is expensive for companies there - companies operating there (including multinational), and companies shipping there. So they just don't do it, period. That they can get away with it is the very reason waste goes there, instead of staying i…
> I'm blaming the companies of "global north capitalism" for exploiting the communities that can't afford to reject a deal that's ultimately bad from them.
Got it, thanks for clarifying what you meant.
> The problem is that the waste can be exported like this in the first place.
Yes, I 100% agree with you.
>> waste-management companies in developing countries
That threw me off because in my experience often a service like this is taken care of by governments/local municipalities. So now I understand that you are talking about corporate entities managing waste.
I am pro refurbishing/reusing and having less waste but its hard to care about tiny airpods being tossed. Maybe they test the message and it resonated better than "Airpods should last longer than your last relationship" or "1 trick that Apple hates" etc.
Seriously, I never understand the "environmental waste" argument as applied to AirPods . The pair of buds weighs a third of a single disposable AA battery. There's less plastic than in an average Chinese takeout container. If you want to complain that they're expensive to replace then go ahead. But as soon as anyone brings up the environment , give me a break. We're not talking about a 65" television that weight 55 p…
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> So why mention that it is expensive for global south countries ('developing countries'), as if the burden is on them? Wait, that's totally not what I wanted to say. I mention it is expensive for companies there - companies operating there (including multinational), and companies shipping there. So they just don't do it, period. That they can get away with it is the very reason waste goes there, instead of staying i…
> I mention it is expensive for companies there - companies operating there (including multinational), and companies shipping there. > I'm blaming the companies of "global north capitalism" for exploiting the communities that can't afford to reject a deal that's ultimately bad from them. Got it, thanks for clarifying what you meant. > The problem is that the waste can be exported like this in the first place. Yes, I…
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27804441
My understanding from that video is that there's a network of companies involved - some on the export side, and some on the import side. Some of the latter are purely local operations - like the people operating the dump in that documentary.
In cases like that video, I find it hard to blame the locals: it's not like they have a more reasonable alternative to make money. But that's not always the case when it comes to waste management. For example, Poland is infamous for having illegal toxic waste dumps. Some local companies offer importing and properly disposing of the waste, but in reality they just bury it in the ground. For these people I wish long jail sentences, because we do have alternatives in this country; our economy does not necessitate for people to create environmental disasters (which then cost the taxpayer much more when discovered, as government then has to clean it up).
Over here I'm still using 3$ Panasonic earbuds from 2012. I spent $15 dollars so I could have 1 in my car, 1 in my laptop bag, 1 next to my computer, and 2 backup for when I lose them or have new location. Haven't lost them yet. Maybe you really do need wireless and it's worth the effort of charging and replacing batteries. Or maybe you are being sold a veblen good and your brain is exploited by a trillion dollar cor…