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>I don’t agree with the need for physical violence. Historically, we have had decent regulatory protections for customers. “When you vote, you are exercising political authority, you're using force. And force, my friends, is violence. The supreme authority from which all other authorities are derived.” Regulatory protections certainly didn't arise from the void. If you trace them back the New Deal agencies, then you…
So, saying to an insurance company that you feel has wronged you - I am registering a complaint with the state insurance commission- is equivalent to physical violence? I’m sorry but that strains credulity.
Chime has been suddenly closing accounts, not returning customers’ money
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I don't think you're responding to an advocate for violence. I think the mere possibility of violence that comes with face-to-face interactions modifies people's behavior.
The "possibility" of violence which is known to never occur is an empty threat and will be ignored just as quickly.
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I wouldn't say that it's gone because it worked so poorly. It's gone for other reasons such as technological advances shifting so much business online where this behavior is no longer possible. I don't think it worked poorly. While we didn't have a constant epidemic of customers fighting with customer service people, the possibility of it served as an effective deterrent for overly scummy behavior (from both sides ac…
This is such a confusing take on human nature. Do you think the implied-but-never-actualized threat of physical violence is the thing that makes in-person customer service succeed? I think it's exactly the opposite. In-person service is typically better because communication is higher-fidelity, and people are much more empathetic when their counterpart is physically present. When communication and empathy fail, the t…
It's not the thing, but I think it's one of the things, among others such as the ones you listed.
> there is basically no threat
Recent events such as shopkeepers or security guards being assaulted for requiring people to wear masks suggests otherwise. The threat is still very small, but I'd argue it exists and humans aren't always reasonable when it comes to evaluating risk probabilities and will probably overestimate the actual risk and adjust their behavior.
> society built laws and norms that prevent that from being a viable solution
People don't always act reasonably and the perpetrator being punished down the line doesn't change the fact you got your face smashed and needed to get stitches.
> But I'd argue that those extremely rare cases are further proof that the in-person "threat of physical violence" does not play a part in making customer service work well.
The other advantages of in-person communication (which you raised) is that both sides can "read the room" and adjust their behavior before the situation escalates to violence. A customer service person might be more likely to bend the rules when they are in front of a person that's visibly angry or violent so that the situation does not actually escalate that far.
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#144I don’t understand why people choose a bank based on anything except excellent customer service. Its the one thing you need from them urgently when something inevitably fucks up.
I choose my bank based on low cost, because that's the only really visible variable. "Excellent customer service" for me means never having to talk to the bank because everything just works, and it's incredibly difficult to judge how good banks are at that.