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Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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voakbasda wrote: post #84
api wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running with a heavy wallet is dangerous. You're more likely to lose your balance and any fall would be that much worse due to the added weight. Peloton is helpfully making your wallet lighter to ensure a safe running experience. Seriously though: if something doesn't really need it, any form of Internet-enabling is something I see as an anti-feature and now avoid at all costs. Internet enabled features or apps means…

Network enabled hardware is a plague. I am a senior embedded engineer doing consulting for companies around the world. It’s all utter crap, and no one should trust any of it. Ever. I am not exaggerating or joking in the slightest. I will never buy appliances, cars, tools, vacuum cleaners, or any other device with any kind of networking functionality. This feature will be used in the future to lock you out of your own…

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Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Post by kderbyma »

mimixco wrote: post #3

Since Peloton has sold subscriptions from day 1, this probably shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The worst part of this story is that the device killed a child and they're using that as the reason to collect monthly ransom. It sounds like a Sopranos episode: Make your monthly payments or we might hurt your kid.

This is the trend of supporting companies like this .... I don't support cartels where possible. I haven't supported amazon for years...that's the price. People need to care. stop asking for someone to do something unless it's stop paying...that's the solution.

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Post by cameldrv »

jerf wrote: post #23

'The company has cited "safety and well-being" as a reason for introducing the membership fee.' I've noticed the "fake because" lately seems to be getting more and more brazen from corporations. This is about the third or fourth "for your safety and convenience we're helping ourselves to more of your money" I've seen in the last couple months, and unfortunately all the other ones I've seen are for products or service…

There is a pretty funny social psychology study [1] where someone asks to cut in line to use the copy machine at a library. If they request to cut in line, 61% of the time, the request is accepted. If they make the same request, but add "because I'm in a rush", the request is accepted 94% of the time. If they make the same request but instead say "because I have to make some copies", the request is accepted 93% of the time.

For some reason, the "fake because", even if it is nonsensical is an effective psychological hack.

[1] https://jamesclear.com/copy-machine-study

Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Post by kvhdude »

voakbasda wrote: post #84
api wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Running with a heavy wallet is dangerous. You're more likely to lose your balance and any fall would be that much worse due to the added weight. Peloton is helpfully making your wallet lighter to ensure a safe running experience. Seriously though: if something doesn't really need it, any form of Internet-enabling is something I see as an anti-feature and now avoid at all costs. Internet enabled features or apps means…

Network enabled hardware is a plague. I am a senior embedded engineer doing consulting for companies around the world. It’s all utter crap, and no one should trust any of it. Ever. I am not exaggerating or joking in the slightest. I will never buy appliances, cars, tools, vacuum cleaners, or any other device with any kind of networking functionality. This feature will be used in the future to lock you out of your own…

Tesla would like to have a word with you. They are upgrading driving ML models on the fly and users seem to like it so far (anecdotal).

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Post by kenned3 »

kevstev wrote: post #36
Barrin92 wrote: post #7

I mean the entire business model of the company seems to be to depart rich people from their money in obscene ways, so that move does not seem unexpected. I generally do not understand the thought process of buying a tablet glued to a treadmill for three thousand dollars. That's like what, a decade of gym membership

These are competing with fitness studios like Soul Cycle- which charges $40+ a class after shoe rental and water. The bike is more like $2000 at least for the standard bike, not $3000. My wife bought one in November 2019, and both joined the "century club" (100 rides) by the middle of 2020 and she takes the Yoga classes as well and I have done a few strength classes- its not just about the bike. We had never previous…

The article you are responding to : Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

You: "The bike is more like $2000 at least for the standard bike, not $3000."

Did you not read that this is not about the bike, but the treadmill?

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Post by cwkoss »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #137
cwkoss wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are some portion of sold pelotons "used", without disclosing this to customers? Seems like their customers would not be happy if that was the case. Conversely, would be extremely wasteful if they don't. What do they do with returned equipment?

>Are some portion of sold pelotons "used", without disclosing this to customers? Im not sure I follow what you mean by "used" what disclosure you are referring to. >What do they do with returned equipment? Probably either scrap them or refurbish re-sell. This would be similar to when car manufacturers issue a recall with a buyback option.

Are refurbished used pelatons a separate SKU, or do customers buying new pelatons get refurbished ones without realizing it?

Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Post by [deleted] »

kderbyma wrote: post #143
mimixco wrote: post #3

Since Peloton has sold subscriptions from day 1, this probably shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. The worst part of this story is that the device killed a child and they're using that as the reason to collect monthly ransom. It sounds like a Sopranos episode: Make your monthly payments or we might hurt your kid.

This is the trend of supporting companies like this .... I don't support cartels where possible. I haven't supported amazon for years...that's the price. People need to care. stop asking for someone to do something unless it's stop paying...that's the solution.

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Re: Peloton's $3k treadmill now comes with surprise 'subscription fee'

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Post by nwallin »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #45

Before people go on a reddit like hate trail, it should be noted is in parallel with a full recall and reimbursement of all the treadmills

What is/was the recall for? Is there something unique about the treadmill that makes it more dangerous than 'normal' treadmills?
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