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Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by KyleBerezin »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

I don't agree with this comment, but we should probably upvote it for credible argument's sake.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by argonaut »

I view most of the outrage over skipping the vaccine line as misplaced. The (American) system was very clearly made easy to game in the first place. The government criteria was unnecessarily complicated and had many vague carveouts that were easily gamed. For example, smokers were eligible early on as having a pre-existing condition - this is trivial to game without technically lying!

Indeed, many people early on advocated doing the criteria strictly by age (after healthcare workers), but the government decided to create carveouts largely for social equity reasons (https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-...).

It got to the point where, in February/March, the only people I knew were vaccinated were a bunch of young people who got vaccinated because they were in med school (or other medical affiliated school), even though they were studying remotely. And in many cases you didn't even need to "lie" to skip the line because nobody even checked for proof you were eligible.

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by amznthrwaway »

whymauri wrote: post #44
saltedonion wrote: post #19

I’m confused. So YC kicked out the guy who complained about it on Twitter and not the people who advocated for lying to skip lines? Wtf?

I'm guessing it goes like this: 1. Skipping vaccine line and talking about it is not actually against BookFace/YC ToS, or it would be a stretch to apply ToS. 2. Publicly talking about matters inside the private group is against ToS since it breaches privacy. In a way that paints the group negatively, nonetheless. Pretty straightforward. It doesn't really matter *to YC* whether anyone skipped a line or not, what matte…

Read the Paul Graham essay on “What You Can’t Say” and realize that YC culture has things you can’t say.

YC culture allows you to say ‘here is how to marginally undermine a public health effort for your own benefit”, but YC culture does not allow you to publicly say “people at YC teach each other how to undermine a public health effort for their own benefit”.

Anything that is critical of YC or Paul is heresy. Anything that prioritizes society over a YC participant is heresy. These things can’t be done publicly, or you’ll be cast out of YC.

http://www.paulgraham.com/say.html

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by minimaxir »

YuriNiyazov wrote: post #127
minimaxir wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Per the tweet replies, Paul Biggar's company that YC funded has been defunct, so that likely makes YC's calculus to remove him easier (optics aside).

This is the part that I don't understand. CircleCI is alive and well last time I checked.

Apparently it was a startup wayyyyy back in 2010, before CircleCI: https://techcrunch.com/2010/04/12/ycs-newstilt-aims-to-help-...

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by Hamuko »

dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

>YC founder came with his aunt, uncle, and mom all over 65 to get jabbed who didn't know about the vaccine site.

Did this YC founder and his aunt, uncle and mom also live in the neighbourhood?

Also, I'm curious about those "issues" if you were just intending to help out people in your neighbourhood? What issues were there with your post?

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by wwweston »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #109
angry_octet wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It has a real "snitches get stiches" vibe to it. You have no expectation of privacy if you announce (let alone advocate for, or instruct how-to) behaviour against public health policy _during_a_pandemic_. The contrast with people who have been working hard to match people with appointments couldn't be more stark.

At this point in the US, anyone who wants to get a vaccine can get one. That makes getting it a personal choice. Then you have this person try to damage Ycombinator because one of their founders spoke internally about the matter. Absolutely tactless. You'd expect future founders to be able to consider potential repercussions for biting the hand that's serving them.

Why would alleged poor behavior among a handful of YC founders damage its reputation, unless it’s either endorsed by YC leadership or widespread enough that it’s unfortunately representative?

If anything, criticism of poor behavior within the cohort would reflect well on a culture that values sharp contrarian takes and productive disruption.

Or at least, it could...

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by ericjang »

KyleBerezin wrote: post #141
dasickis wrote: post #120

I'm the person this original tweet was about. None of you know any of the internal details but what I can state is that Paul has no idea what he's talking about and later admits to the fact I wasn't lying. Here's the order of events: 1. I went to a neighborhood clinic in Oakland, CA that's literally next door to my house, I can see the church from my window. Paul lives in NYC which is on the opposite end of the count…

I don't agree with this comment, but we should probably upvote it for credible argument's sake.

I agree with this comment and upvoted it for credible argument's sake

Re: LOL just got kicked out of @ycombinator

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Post by [deleted] »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #86
version_five wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is Paul B getting kicked out the same thing as "cancel culture"? It seems like he's violated a rule of a voluntary group he was in, and was kicked out of that group. I know its subjective, but I don't think that's "being cancelled" in the sense that it's usually used. Its more like if you lost your diving license for speeding.

How do you hear it being used? Basically every time I’ve encountered the phrase, it’s referred to someone getting fired, kicked out of school, uninvited from a speaking engagement or something similar.

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