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Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#141

Post by Dylan16807 » Mon, May 31, 2021, 8:02 AM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #140

Dylan16807 wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When the topic is a company stopping making a thing, it's useful to know what the thing is.

Indeed. And the original comment provided exactly zero useful info on what the thing is. Let's say someone doesn't know what Phabricator is. After the insightful comment that is "better than nothing" that someone will no exactly the same amount about what Phabricator is: zero. And will have to Google or rely on other comments to understand what it is. The fact that "it's a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application…

If you ask some friends to order the following statements in terms of usefulness:

A: X company is shutting down development on their web software product.

B: X company is shutting down development on something.

C: X company is shutting down development on their web software product, which is used for collaborating on software development.

Then I bet that if your friends find any difference at all, they will rank C better than A better than B.

The headline alone tells us B, and the headline plus the LAMP comment tells us A.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#142

Post by 20after4 » Mon, May 31, 2021, 12:10 PM UTC

quadrifoliate wrote: post #57

Phabricator-the-software is a really good tool for code reviews and lightweight task management. It's used at my current workplace (self-hosted) for both. We aren't big enough to effectively take over maintenance – but I hope someone does. It would be a shame for it to be replaced by 10 other tools that reimplement the same features poorly.

There seems to be a bit of momentum building for a community supported fork. Feel free to join #phabricator on libera.chat irc if you'd like to follow along.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#143

Post by Shastick » Mon, May 31, 2021, 4:59 PM UTC

20after4 wrote: post #91

ipsum2 wrote: post #49

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It's a shame that Wikimedia couldn't donate money to Phabricator for it to stay alive, considering it raised ~$30mil in 2019.

Wikimedia has been maintaining a phabricator fork for years and have sponsored upstream with monetary contributions on more than one occasion. It doesn’t seem like there is much interest in finding ways to keep phacility alive. Note: I work on phabricator at Wikimedia. My opinions do not necessarily match those of the foundation and I’m speaking from personal experience not from any position of authority.

Do you already know whether wikimedia will continue to maintain its fork, or plan to move away?

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#144

Post by webmaven » Tue, Jun 01, 2021, 2:11 AM UTC

ipaddr wrote: post #131

webmaven wrote: post #75

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> Remember the P was for PHP or Perl. Or Python.

You are right. Was it used for anything else? The m could be mysql or microsoft sql but rarely was anything aside from mysql (and postgres but the name never fit)

No, that was it. There were alternative acronyms of course, like WAMP (Windows, etc.) or LAPP (incorporating Postgres as you mentioned).

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#145

Post by dmitriid » Tue, Jun 01, 2021, 8:25 AM UTC

Dylan16807 wrote: post #141

dmitriid wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. And the original comment provided exactly zero useful info on what the thing is. Let's say someone doesn't know what Phabricator is. After the insightful comment that is "better than nothing" that someone will no exactly the same amount about what Phabricator is: zero. And will have to Google or rely on other comments to understand what it is. The fact that "it's a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application…

If you ask some friends to order the following statements in terms of usefulness: A: X company is shutting down development on their web software product. B: X company is shutting down development on something. C: X company is shutting down development on their web software product, which is used for collaborating on software development. Then I bet that if your friends find any difference at all, they will rank C be…

Compare the useless comment you're so eagerly defending with other examples of useless comments to this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27348692

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#146

Post by Dylan16807 » Tue, Jun 01, 2021, 7:02 PM UTC

dmitriid wrote: post #145

Dylan16807 wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you ask some friends to order the following statements in terms of usefulness: A: X company is shutting down development on their web software product. B: X company is shutting down development on something. C: X company is shutting down development on their web software product, which is used for collaborating on software development. Then I bet that if your friends find any difference at all, they will rank C be…

Compare the useless comment you're so eagerly defending with other examples of useless comments to this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27348692

I'm well aware that it would have been possible and even easy to make a much better description.

But the world isn't divided into good and useless. Narrowing it from any product in the world down to web app is about a 3 stars out of 10 description. It's a bad score but it's not 1 star.

Re: Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained

#147

Post by 20after4 » Sat, Jun 05, 2021, 4:11 PM UTC

Shastick wrote: post #143

20after4 wrote: post #91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wikimedia has been maintaining a phabricator fork for years and have sponsored upstream with monetary contributions on more than one occasion. It doesn’t seem like there is much interest in finding ways to keep phacility alive. Note: I work on phabricator at Wikimedia. My opinions do not necessarily match those of the foundation and I’m speaking from personal experience not from any position of authority.

Do you already know whether wikimedia will continue to maintain its fork, or plan to move away?

No decision has been made. I'm attempting to make a case for maintaining it.