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Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by PopePompus »

VBprogrammer wrote: post #52
bayindirh wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand that performance engines need unobstructed exhausts up to a certain point, but pipes tuned to amplify this sound is distracting at best, damaging your ears at worst. I don't like them. They become hazardous in tunnels, underpasses and other closed spaces. Ultra loud pipes kill my ears' locating capabilities and I can't mentally place the motorcycle to the correct place so I won't unintentionally endanger…

I don't know what to tell you, I'm normally a pretty sensible type. Stick to the speed limits, have a small sensible car etc. But on a motorbike the noise of the exhaust while riding a motorcycle is intoxicating!

I recently had to move because of the noise caused by people like you.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#142

Post by javajosh »

skohan wrote: post #123

Very eye-catching - reminds me of Akira. I assume those silver cylinders are battery cells? It would be interesting to see lithium ion cells being exposed like this as a design choice, like muscle cars sometimes expose part of the internal combustion engine as a way to center the power of the vehicle. Also based on the scope of this project, I assume that must be a known cell form-factor, but I had assumed most appli…

The batteries (I assume) caught my eye too, mainly because they seem exposed in the event of a crash.

If the two thick yellow cables going to the rear axle are any indication, the motor is tiny and in the axle - so, not much to see there. :)

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by FlyingSaucer »

tartoran wrote: post #73
EE84M3i wrote: post #60

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That was my interpretation at first too, but their anecdote about being heard from inside a car leads me to believe they're talking about cars seeing/hearing them on the road for safety reasons.

Is that the reason they rev up their engines to the breaking point while standing in traffic?

That's the biggest annoyance in my eyes. As a motorcyclist, i think its ok for the engine to make some noise (not counting the obnoxious cruisers or bike with some aftermarket exhausts), but there is truly no reason to rev up hard while sitting in traffic or in a slow central streets.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#144

Post by mFixman »

edejong wrote: post #125
igetspam wrote: post #119

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It wouldn't help. There's literally nothing that can be done to get a cager's attention, if they're distracted. I've had to knock on windows, to prevent people from merging into me. Loud pipes, hi-viz clothes, horns. Nothing helps. People are just too self absorbed to pay attention. You people see cops (sometimes) and vehicles bigger than yours and that's about it.

Perhaps treating the other road users as people instead of derogatory terms like cagers would help. In addition, choosing a mode of transport which is literally 20 times more lethal per kilometer than driving is your responsibility. You can always choose to be a ‘cager’.

Motorcycles are lethal _because_ of cars.

Blaming people for injuries are deaths caused by cars is the most discusting tactic the car industry has used to fight against road safety. Just look at any newspaper article about car drivers murdering children: they are always phrased as in "inattentive child was looking at his cellphone and died in a road".

I find it incredible that walking on a street is illegal in parts of America. Honestly, the only reasonable solution to this is a Netherlands-style law that makes the biggest vehicle automatically guilty for all accidents they caused: this alone being deaths down tenfold.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by annoyingnoob »

brandall10 wrote: post #135
NikolaNovak wrote: post #108

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I would support all that. When starting out, take that weekend course your local college offers - and try all the bikes in a controlled safe environment. I was shocked how much I didn't want a sports bike - the posture and low speed maneuverability were horrid. I also didn't like cruisers personally, didn't feel in control leaning back. I turned into a lifelong standard posture guy - whether city bike or adventure or…

Fwiw, in California it’s customary to do a day long motorcycle safety course in lieu of taking an on road test with the DMV, which is noted as having some aspects that are unusually difficult.

I did both, but the rules have changed since then. When I did the CA DMV motorcycle test it was super easy. Ride straight between two white lines, then around a full circle between the lines, then back between another set of lines - all you have to do is stay in the lines. Took all of about 1 minute. The trick was to use a small motorcycle, you need a 250cc or above for M1 so I borrowed a 250. Piece of cake.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

#146

Post by PopePompus »

mrweasel wrote: post #110
hotz wrote: post #90

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Hi-viz doesn't work though. I use to look like a walking highlighter, I might as well have been invisible. Put on aftermarket exhaust and people know I'm there. The difference in behaviour was crazy.

Sorry, I don’t understand why you’re downvoted, because that’s kinda interesting. Has someone wrote the sound also don’t help in many cases so that could indicate that many aren’t paying enough attention while driving or we’re lacking some way to make bikers visible (both motorcycles and bicycles).

If you can't find a safe way to use your mode of transportation without ruining the quality of life of your neighbors, perhaps it's time to find a new mode of transportation.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by aiisjustanif »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #27
ex3ndr wrote: post #26

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Isn't louder == safer?

No, cars are isolated. Safe driving practices are safe. Like knowing the perception psychology that makes it hard for cars to see you and try to counter that. https://youtu.be/x94PGgYKHQ0

Cars are not sound proof.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by Leherenn »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #67
CraigJPerry wrote: post #5

I can’t wait for electric motorbikes to be more diverse and advanced. I used to be a “my loud exhaust helps me to be seen” kinda guy. Until one day, sat in standstill traffic in my car on the M74 motorway just outside Glasgow, a rider on a BMW S1000XR, with the same loud exhaust as on mine, filtered past the window and I didn’t hear him until he was level with my rear passenger door. Exhausts sound great, i love the…

I owned ride 6-7 different motorcycles, and I believe there's a special place in hell for those who put on loud aftermarket exhausts. Sure, it sounds nice to them . It shows an astonishing disregard to thousands of other people they impact daily. Let alone your next 10 neighbour houses who put up with it on consistent basis. ... :O There's no increased safety factor - there's no real location or distance clue such lo…

Where I live, they have started adding noise pollution cameras in the city center. They don't give ticket, just display the noise level and a smiley, but I'd love for them to become active and more common. It's so annoying being woken up at night because of some kind of really loud exhaust noise.

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by ryukafalz »

henearkr wrote: post #74
mschuster91 wrote: post #72

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> Bicycles don't need it, do they? The traffic fatalities of bicyclists in cities would like a word with you...

I believe the solution is not loud noises. There are plenty of other options.

Most importantly, slowing down cars in residential or dense areas. The slower vehicle traffic is moving, the less likely that a collision will be fatal. (By a lot!)

Re: Yamaha MOTOROiD

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Post by quercusa »

annoyingnoob wrote: post #145
brandall10 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fwiw, in California it’s customary to do a day long motorcycle safety course in lieu of taking an on road test with the DMV, which is noted as having some aspects that are unusually difficult.

I did both, but the rules have changed since then. When I did the CA DMV motorcycle test it was super easy. Ride straight between two white lines, then around a full circle between the lines, then back between another set of lines - all you have to do is stay in the lines. Took all of about 1 minute. The trick was to use a small motorcycle, you need a 250cc or above for M1 so I borrowed a 250. Piece of cake.

When I did it (long ago) I think there was a cone weave as well. I started off thinking that test was a poor representation of what riding was actually like, but came to understand that for a quick test, it probably mapped pretty well to basic MC skills.
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