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Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by [deleted] »

usaphp wrote: post #126
amatecha wrote: post #31

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I mean, sure the Apple Watch is "years ahead". It not only came out two years later, but is developed by one of the most wealthy consumer tech/software companies in the world. Pebble was acquired by FitBit right around the time the second iteration of the Apple Watch was out, so there's really not much point in comparing the two in terms of technology. Despite Apple Watch's merits over the Pebble, I still miss my Peb…

> can switch the currently-playing song with my watch without having to look at it Why would you need to look at your watch? If you are listening to music on your Apple Watch - you are probably using headphones, all of which have next/prev buttons or gestures.

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Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by dagmx »

salamandersauce wrote: post #116
dagmx wrote: post #93

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A better SoC usually means better power efficiency, where the speed means it can get through tasks faster under the same wattage, so it helps battery life.

Which is then completely blown by the screen anyways? It's not like you're tearing up complicated calculations on your watch. This makes sense on other devices but not so much on a watch. My Garmin lasts a week with the screen always on, several hours of GPS on and music playing during workouts. The most draining thing is music.

Yes but those screen features are what some people ask for (and always on can be disabled).

The watch also does do quite a bit of processing on device, especially cellular ones. It's quite a different beast than the Garmin, even though they have crossover

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by leokennis »

thekyle wrote: post #56
emsy wrote: post #14

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I had several pebbles (2 b/w and the colored one) and now have an apple watch. You don’t know what you’re talking about, the tech in the apple watch is years ahead. There’s much to criticize about the apple watch but it does the important things just so much better than the competition. I also never understood the focus on battery life. I put my watch on the charger whenever I go to sleep. If I forget it either still…

> I put my watch on the charger whenever I go to sleep. One of the things that always confused me about the Apple Watch (and other smartwatches) is that they market them as sleep tracking devices, but if you do use it for that purpose then I'm not sure when you're supposed to charge it. I guess you could charge it during a morning (or evening) shower but is ~30 minutes a day of charging enough?

I charge it for 30 minutes while I get ready for bed and for 15 minutes in the morning while I dress and brush my teeth. For the other 23 hours and 15 minutes I wear it. I’ve yet to see it dip below 30% (except for days when I do all day hikes and have my outdoors map + gps tracking on the watch).

So I could probably make do with just the 30 minute charge in the evening.

Before Apple Watch I used (in order) a Jawbone Up, a Fitbit don’t know the name and a Garmin Vivofit. All three are by far way crummier than an Apple Watch. Both in comfort, build quality and functionality.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by deepGem »

snowwrestler wrote: post #134
gnu8 wrote: post #124

The article seems to be saying that Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables over a list of companies that don't even make wearables. That is a clever trick for giving the article a bold title, but the result is a fairly uninteresting and uninformative Apple jerk-off piece. It is akin to saying "Quaker Oats has a 150-year lead in edibles" where Apple doesn't even make food.

So who are the most capable competitors to Apple in wearables? Among my friends and colleagues, those who don’t buy Apple Watch often buy Garmin watches instead. In the area of fitness tracking watches, Garmin seems to be serious competition. It’s missing the full app ecosystem of Apple Watch but I think you can send messages and email to some Garmin watches over 4G, for example.

As a current Apple watch owner I was tempted to get a Garmin, just for the battery life. It is super annoying to remember to charge the Apple watch every 20 hours or so. I wish Apple got around to offering better battery life than adding features.

I finally caved and bought an automatic. I just want a watch to show me the time accurately, last long and offer good water resistance as I wear the watch all the time.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by criddell »

Fomite wrote: post #64
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

I'm skeptical anyone has a decade long lead on anything in the consumer electronics space.

When Tesla was starting up I was skeptical that they could overcome GM and Ford's century-long lead in car manufacturing.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by shados »

I know it's not quite the same and is a lot more complicated, but...

What was Microsoft (PocketPC) and Palm's lead in hand held computing back in the days, right before Apple shit over everything they did in one announcement?

Wearable as currently imagined kind of suck. Making them better while keeping the same concept is just gonna make something that sucks faster/lighter. Someone needs to come in and take the world by storm with something we didn't think of yet. Maybe that will STILL be Apple, but it could be someone else.

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by aphextron »

whynotminot wrote: post #123
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

> silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart watch category. What? This doesn't even make sense. This is by far the most important lead Apple has. Their ability to put performant and efficient chips into tiny devices is why they have such a software edge. Other Android wearables suck because the underlying hardware is not able to power the experience without signifi…

"People who are really serious about software should make their own hardware"

Re: Apple has a decade-long lead in wearables

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Post by lscotte »

lscotte wrote: post #99
least wrote: post #17

I'm pretty skeptical that Apple has a decade-long lead on any of the other big players in the market. Any innovations that one company can make can be more quickly adopted than new innovations occur and there's nothing as far as software goes that Apple is uniquely positioned to create. The other factors mentioned such as silicon tech being years ahead of the competition is one that is hardly a factor for the smart w…

I had an Android smartwatch years before Apple even came out with one. Typical Apple reality distortion field in effect.

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