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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by onion2k »

contriban wrote: post #34
crazygringo wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried VSCode and Sublime each for a month earlier this year. I was surprised to find myself deciding on Sublime at the end of it. It came down to performance but also clutter. Sublime is fast . But also, VSCode just had too many panels and bells and whistles. And VSCode's defaults were just all wrong . Like trying to autocomplete every other word when I'm typing text in a .txt file -- it's not even code! I couldn't…

Now that you say it, I also feel that VSCode defaults are wrong. It’s a bunch of small things that feel off.

The defaults are there to onboard people, or to work for people who are light users. Any tool, not just VSCode, you use for hours with every day is worth spending some time configuring to the way you want and work well in. Learning it, configuring it, and even extending it with your own plugins, can pay huge dividends for your productivity.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by ben-schaaf »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #109
ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Are there any plans to open source the GUI system? It could be a hugely beneficial for a set of cross platform apps. Thanks a lot for creating this piece of software art. I’m a user since the v1 and no matter what the editor du jour is, I always fallback to ST and Vim.

This question has been asked a lot, so thankfully I've got an easy answer: You don't actually want to build on top of our UI toolkit. We make breaking changes all the time, there's very little documentation and no release cycle at all. This isn't a problem for us as we have in-house knowledge and can fix any breakages trivially, but you don't want every open source project to have to maintain it's own fork of a UI toolkit.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by ben-schaaf »

themacguffinman wrote: post #131
ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

I was surprised to see "By default, GPU rendering is enabled on Mac, and disabled on Windows and Linux". Is there any reason I shouldn't manually enable GPU rendering on Windows/Linux?

Windows and Linux have a much larger variety in hardware and drivers and much lower prevalence of high-dpi monitors. So we felt that for now it would be better to leave it disabled by default. This may change in the future.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by systematical »

rococode wrote: post #49
SavantIdiot wrote: post #40

I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I'm so deep in VSCode now, I don't know if I can find my way out! I c…

To me, VSCode competes with IDEs, Sublime competes with text editors. Startup speed accounts for a solid 95% of that distinction. If I need to make a quick edit to a file or write down a temporary (but reasonably persistent) note, the only tools I've tried that let me do that in less than 3 seconds are Sublime, Notepad, and Notepad++. Among those choices, Sublime is the clear winner in overall usefulness and function…

Agreed, it's nice and fast. Sublime is my go to for notes, storing quick tidbits, quick macros (this has saved me lots of time), data editing, little bits of quick code, and SQL scratch pad. There is probably a ton more I could be using it for.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by eitland »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #61
CraftThatBlock wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think this implies that after 3 year, you can keep using whatever is the last version you were using. It's basically license to get what you have right + any versions in the next 3 year. JetBrains also has a similar license for yearly subscriptions, where you can keep using whatever version was supported at the end of the license.

Jetbrains license works slightly different. You get a license and access to all updates released for duration. But if your license is not renewed at the end, you lose access to updates in the year/time since you bought the license. You still keep original version at the time you purchased license for as long as you want, though.

I'm fairly certain the Jetbrains subscription model is:

(Edit, I had to look it up, the exact wording is:) "You will receive perpetual fallback licenses for every version you’ve paid 12 consecutive months for.

Other notably nice app/programs that uses this or similar sane, friendly models including Sublime Text 4 and Jetbrains products:

- Agenda (Mac, iOS) Planner/journal

- Manic Time time tracker (Windows, maybe Mac). This can easily save you many hours a month or help you increase billing.

feel free to add more examples here, we should make some positive noise about companies that don't abuse their customers.

(Please don't misunderstand me: Open source is often even lovlier but there are plenty of lists of Free/Open source software.)

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by reader_mode »

skavi wrote: post #79
dawnerd wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't want to take any thunder away from Sublime but VSCode basically opens instantly on M1.

You almost definitely speak the truth, but that kind of attitude towards performance is why so many apps are so awful to use now. Especially if you can’t afford the newest Mac.

M1 macs are the first Apple devices where I feel you're getting excellent value for money and they are super affordable for what they are.

These are professional tools, you're going to need to invest into hardware to get a good experience - if you value your time at all you'll be spending a good ammount of money on a laptop, high quality chair, good desk, monitor and peripheral.

If you're an amateur or a student then you can afford to wait.

It's like me complaining that my amateur drill overheats on hard surfaces and I can't drill through stuff realiably without cracks - if I need to do a few holes here and there the cheap stuff will do, if I do this for a living I'm expected to have gear that will save me time and improve my results.

Performance is a feature, and it doesn't rank very high past some critical threshold (which is why people switched to VSCode - other features matter more)

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by ben-schaaf »

hn8788 wrote: post #68
ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Congratulations on the new release though, it's been my favorite editor for years. Just a heads up, when you upgrade an existing license, the instructions say to click on Help > Enter License, but you have to remove the current license before you can enter a new one.

Thanks, we've added some instructions for that.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by tdsamardzhiev »

dawnerd wrote: post #69
SavantIdiot wrote: post #40

I feel bad using VSCode after years of supporting Sublime (by purchasing a license). However the one case where I do use sublime repeatedly? When I need to open an editor QUICKLY. It boots faster than VSCode, and frankly, it finally broke me of my constant habit of VIMming now that I have it on my mac, win and linux boxes. I am eager to try V4, but I'm so deep in VSCode now, I don't know if I can find my way out! I c…

I don't want to take any thunder away from Sublime but VSCode basically opens instantly on M1.

Everything opens instantly on M1. Enjoy it while software hasn't slowed down accordingly.

Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by [deleted] »

FlyingSnake wrote: post #109
ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Are there any plans to open source the GUI system? It could be a hugely beneficial for a set of cross platform apps. Thanks a lot for creating this piece of software art. I’m a user since the v1 and no matter what the editor du jour is, I always fallback to ST and Vim.

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Re: Sublime Text 4

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Post by SNosTrAnDbLe »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #60

Hello HN, I'm one of the developers at Sublime HQ. We're all very excited about this release. If you have any questions you'd like to ask I'll do my best to answer them.

Thanks for introducing the multi select feature in text editing. There may have been other editors before which had but Sublime was where I first encountered this and where it felt natural. It has saved me countless keystrokes! I use VS Code now but it has started getting slower and it may be time to go back to sublime!
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