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Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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Not quite a pyramid scheme. The basic scheme is: * Issue crypto pegged to the dollar * Hold interest-generating reserves * Collect interest I externalize risk, but it's a relatively low risk. That's different from a pyramid scheme. Low risk isn't the same as unimportant risk. The whole point of crypto is to mitigate very similar sorts of systemic risks. Cash works pretty well most of the time.

Sounds really close to a bank, without being one.

You're right. A lot of crypto schemes are very close to classical, preregulation banks.

Early banks issued IOUs for deposits. At some point, traders started swapping bank IOUs in lieu of moving gold, since slips of papers were easier-to-handle and equivalent.

At some point after that, bankers noticed they could lend out the gold for a profit.

Fast-forward a few hundred years, and the central bank issues IOUs in the form of dollar bills, and no one else is legally permitted to mint currency. As of a half-century ago, those are no longer backed by gold. Banks, in turn, handle deposits as bits on a computer (which are even more convenient than paper), backed by worthless slips of US-issued paper. Only the US doesn't even bother printing much of the paper anymore, since it's "deposits at the fed."

I wonder if we're heading for a similar path? Government bans the use of non-sanctioned cryptocurrency, like it once did with bank-issued bank notes, and issues it's own cryptocurrency? It kinda makes sense, since it wants to be able to adjust money supply in the public (or political) good.

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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At this kind of scale, I don't think there's such a thing as plain "cash" free of any counterparty risk - even just holding it in a bank account has risk attached (and most banks probably don't want an account with that much money in it because that would pose risks to them - they have the exact same problems finding somewhere to put it). US treasuries and AAA-rated bonds and commercial paper are about the best you c…

I remember reading about some folks who wanted to open a bank that wouldn't make any loans, but rather just take store all their deposits as excess reserves at the federal reserve. They would take a few basis points for themselves, but offer their customers a way to have truly cash deposits that earned some interest with the absolute minimum amount of counter-party risk. The Federal Reserve didn't approve them to do…

That's called a narrow bank. It's one of those stories you hear about that really make you question the incentives of these large government organizations like the fed. Makes you realize that their goal is not necessarily aligned with the average every day citizen, but rather keeping up this economic system we seem to be stuck in:

> The Fed raises three main objections. 3 The first is macroeconomic: The Fed worries that narrow banks could mess with the implementation of monetary policy, because if they succeed they will keep a lot of money at the Fed, increasing the size of its balance sheet...

> Second, it worries that narrow banks will take funding away from regular banks, making it harder for those banks to trade stocks and bonds (a business largely funded by repo), and maybe even making it harder to make loans...

> Third, the Fed worries that having too safe a bank would be bad for financial stability: In times of stress, everyone will flee from the regular banks to the super-safe narrow banks, which will have the effect of bringing down the regular banks

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-03-08/the-fe...

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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Yes, that is the scenario I am describing. I have a billion dollars of liabilities in the ScamStableCoins I issued and a billion dollar in "Assets" from the IOU I wrote myself. THus I am perfectly fully backed.

Yeah, technically correct I guess. Is there any realistic scenario where this would fly? This would be plain and clear fraud and not something allowed to go on for two years after multiple audits.

What audits? The point is that there hasn’t been anything like an actual audit.

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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For some reason I am reminded of a short anecdote from Good Soldier Svejk - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Good_Soldier_%C5%A0vejk

Before WW1 in Austro-Hungary a small game of cards takes place in a bar.

The stakes are tiny a few krona at the beginning.

By the end of the night people have mortgaged their properties, their belongings, their wives and have written IOUs for trillions of krona.

It ends with one of the players reporting to the police for illegal gambling hoping to collect a finder's fee on the total amount of IOUs...

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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USDC's "custody accounts" aren't cash either: "US Dollars held in custody accounts are the total balances in accounts held by the Company at federally insured US depository institutions and in approved investments on behalf of the USDC holders at the Report Date."

That sounds like a bank account. Are you criticizing USDC for not being as safe as paper dollars in a mattress?

Bank accounts are insured against counterparty risk by the FDIC.

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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This is an opinion piece and the headline & article are clickbait IMHO. From Tether's chart, they literally have 2.9% in cash. So I guess the headline technically checks out. But Tether reported over 75% held in cash equivalents, the same type of liquid assets Apple reports when reporters say Apple is sitting on billions in 'cash' I think maybe more interesting, Tether reports only 1.64% slice of pie has some crypto…

Doesn't matter what tether says because they are not audited. I could write "100% cash!" on a napkin and it would have the same credibility.

Not exactly, Tether has more credibility than your napkin given that they’re successfully maintaining the USDT peg despite huge volumes (for now)

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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Also I didn't know what commercial paper is but it is apparently a very short term loan up to 270 days: https://corporatefinanceinstitute.com/resources/knowledge/cr...

I think it's the money exchanges like Binance "owe" them for the free Tether they receive. This is accounting shenanigans because the money is nowhere (i.e. when they mint Tether and send them to an exchange the commercial paper account gets credited mechanically). It's not physical reserves, but reserves in the accounting sense.

And the collateral is probably bitcoin in Binance's cold wallets. So ultimately it is backed by crypto. Which also gives the answer to how it is kept stable (at least in the short term) because the paper is denominated in dollars and they'd have to pay back real cash if the value of the Tether slid.

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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I run ScamStableCrypto. I create a billion ScamStableCoins and claim they are worth $1 each. I give a billion ScamStableCoins to ScamCryptoExchange. ScamCryptoExchange is run by me. ScamCryptoExchange writes an IOU for one billion US dollars and gives it ScamStableCrypto (my right hand gives something to my left hand). I, as ScamStableCrypto, write down in my balance book that I have a billion dollars of Commercial P…

I simply don't understand why all this complicated stable coin stuff is even necessary. Why can't exchanges use USD instead of USDT, USDC, BUSD or whatever? There are trading pairs for other currencies like EUR, GBP, AUD, BRL, RUB. Why can't we have USD trading pairs?

Many (most?) centralized exchanges do have such pairs, but we also would like to be able to have fully decentralized exchanges, and we also would like to have smart contracts that operate on dollars: stable coins aren't just some narrow solution for exchanges.

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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what defines an "approved investment" ?

> you agree Circle is free to use the funds provided for its own purposes prior to redemption subject to the terms of this Agreement. > Circle may also invest these fiat funds in highly-liquid, AAA-rated fixed income securities. I wrote about this here: https://omarabid.com/usd-stable-coins Only Gemini USD is fully backed by US treasuries. Everyone else is using this money to play roulette.

Yes! And it redeems on demand! But what’s perplexed me is, the Gemini dollar (GUSD) is somehow more volatile than Dai, which uses much more complex, experimental means of stabilizing its value:

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/multi-collateral-dai/

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/gemini-dollar/

Re: Tether reserves backed by 2.9% cash

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the market does not seem to care. we are indeed living in a post-truth era.

How do we tell “the market” from the half a billion fake dollars being pumped into the exchanges each day and the fake volume being traded between exchanges that hold significant amounts of USDT they know have no value when hell comes down but they need to respect until that point to keep the delusion going long enough to make more on new crypto than they are already under water?

I have a sense that a healthy maker analysis would show that the market does indeed care, but there’s to much fraud in the mix for it to be clear unless you dig out the details.

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