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Someone trying to well-actually a writer's self-proclaimed ethnic identity is hackernews af though you have to admit.
That's why there's /r/LOLHackerNews on reddit!
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I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
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Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Every argument against Amazon-the-employer I have read recently seems to pretend that the people who work there have no choice but to work for Amazon, as if they didn't pick the job for themselves out of the array of possible options available to them. I have a lot of issues with the way Amazon operates, but precisely nobody is forced to work there. This article does a good job of pointing that out.
And for all the shrieking about Amazon destroying "mom and pop" shops these people never admit that Amazon pays their employees much more, often 2x what the mom and pop's did. Or did you really think mom and pop were paying the teens running their bookstore $17/hr? You think they had great health insurance and other benefits?
I personally think it's ridiculous that people find it amazing that 15 an hour is considered amazing pay for anyone that isn't a teenager working their first job, but Amazon gets high praise for doing it. Most people on here would laugh at a job that pays 600 a week, 2400 a month or 28800 a year before taxes.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure how that refutes my point that there are millions of people south of the border willing to work these backbreaking jobs for low pay if only our government could come up with some sensible immigration bill. That these same people also exploit undocumented people is a separate issue. Give them papers and you'll have no problem finding jobs!
> I'm not sure how that refutes my point I am refuting your point that people complaining about labor shortages shouldn't be voting republican. Which doesn't make sense because these ppl want 1. low regulation, taxes and lax labor laws. 2. availability of immigrants. GOP provides both of these. Why would they care if ppl working for them are illegal or on h2 visa. > Give them papers and you'll have no problem finding…
Trump increased h2 and then banned them after Covid so he could demagogue about brown people spreading disease.
Seems an important fact that's left out here!
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/president-trump-extends-ba...
But yes your larger point that Republicans are fine with migrants they can exploit for a few years as long as they can make sure they "go back to their country" is well taken!
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
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I knew a UPS long-haul driver who was making over $100k in 2003.
That was 2003 and a different career with different qualifications, not to mention work schedule.
My point is the potential is there for driving and delivering to rise in status and pay again.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
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There would probably be more respect even if nothing else changed except they paid more.
I doubt it. Both because Amazon pay is decent, but more so because it’s more about class expectations than it is about pay. Lots of jobs make a lot of money, but are still not considered high status.
Jobs like what?
The only ones I can think of are ones which suddenly started paying a lot due to some market quirk (e.g. miners in Australia in the 2010s).
Class expectations just take a while to catch up (or never do if the market quirk doesn't persist).
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
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This is all true but I don’t think it was the main point GP was making. Most “Latino” people are of at least part Native American or African ancestry; whereas “Latin” refers originally to speakers of Romance languages. Thus most (of course not all) “Latinos” who call themselves that are identifying with the subset of their ancestors who enslaved and conquered the others.
The Native Americans were also well-known enslavers. Look up who the Cherokee took with them on their trail of tears. Please don't deny their agency.
Yes there were many Native American enslavers and conquerers. Doing evil isn't exclusive to white people and it would be absurd to suggest that it is. But I don't see how that's related to my comment.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
I doubt it. Both because Amazon pay is decent, but more so because it’s more about class expectations than it is about pay. Lots of jobs make a lot of money, but are still not considered high status.
Jobs like what? The only ones I can think of are ones which suddenly started paying a lot due to some market quirk (e.g. miners in Australia in the 2010s). Class expectations just take a while to catch up (or never do if the market quirk doesn't persist).
Plumbing and electrician are the first two that come to mind.
Construction would probably be another.
Basically “blue collar” jobs that require a lot of expertise.
I’d guess some variation and small business risk, but I think many do well.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Anglo-Saxon is a somewhat outdated term that refers to the Germanic people that inhabit England and Wales. Easy way to remember is if you take "Anglo" + "Land" you get "Anglo-land", which morphs into the term "England". Modern historians don't use the term Anglo-Saxon much these days, so it's not especially important.
> Modern historians don't use the term Anglo-Saxon much these days, so it's not especially important. To you. And to a bunch of people who have to live in fear of being canceled - a.k.a., fired for - in the case of historians - reminding the world of uncomfortable truths.
Historians don't use the term because it's a bit imprecise and outdated. If you were talking about the "Anglo-Saxon language", you would probably say "Old English" instead. If you were talking about the people, you would probably want to make it clear whether you were talking about the Germanic tribes who migrated to England starting in the 5th century, or whether you were talking about the English people in the 5th-11th century, which also included the indigenous British population.
Just as an illustration of why the term "Anglo-Saxon" muddles things, we have the person in the article who seems to think that Murphy is an Anglo-Saxon surname, when it is clearly Celtic in origin. I'm not doubting that the author is Anglo-Saxon... just pointing out that his suname, itself, is not.
I'm not a historian, so I'm just relating the parts of the issue that I understand. There are articles online by historians that go into greater depth explaining why historians tend to avoid the term "Anglo-Saxon" these days, and why the term became so popular in the 18th and 19th century.
Not sure what "uncomfortable truth" you are referring to. If you have something to say, spit it out. I also don't understand why someone would "fear being canceled" just because they used a somewhat obsolete term.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#149Journalism has become such a tough field. I know a number of people who do OK in it. But I know a whole lot more who do writing-related stuff for companies that sell products.
How can we fix that? Many of my family members and friends have little to no interest in reading or learning, although they do have strong opinions on just about every topic.
In my mind, demand for journalism and quality journalism is going to be difficult when folks don’t want or don’t care to read. They have enough things trying to grab their attention that provide an instant gratification — whereas journalism or reading some well researched or written article requires mental effort and investment and almost an appreciation. I personally didn’t appreciate good journalism or writers until I tried writing (mostly technical documents).
I learned two things quickly. Not only did I need to know the subject matter but I needed to convey it in some form that made sense, didn’t just lead to unrelated questions that derail what I’m trying to achieve, and didn’t put the reader to sleep. This is a hard problem, in my opinion.
Re: I Used to Write for Sports Illustrated. Now I Deliver Packages for Amazon (2018)
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Jobs like what? The only ones I can think of are ones which suddenly started paying a lot due to some market quirk (e.g. miners in Australia in the 2010s). Class expectations just take a while to catch up (or never do if the market quirk doesn't persist).
Plumbing and electrician are the first two that come to mind. Construction would probably be another. Basically “blue collar” jobs that require a lot of expertise. I’d guess some variation and small business risk, but I think many do well.
The reason those don't command respect is because they don't pay well in the main.