Shipping containers are falling overboard at a rapid rate

Post by teachrdan » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 4:49 PM UTC

hutzlibu wrote: post #66

lostlogin wrote: post #24

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My grandfather used to go and salvage (loot?) smashed up ships on the Yorkshire coast after storms as a kid in the early 20th century. They had places they’d go after bad weather, knowing that’s where wrecks ended up.

Thats a very old tradition. Sometimes local traditon encuraged potential salvage, by setting up false lights. edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrecking_(shipwreck) but wikipedia actually says, this might be a urban legend, as there is no clear evidence this ever happened

Post by philwelch » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

ineedasername wrote: post #120

philwelch wrote: post #95

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One interesting take I’ve read on that quote is that you need to consider the source. If you’re a general for a country that routinely deploys troops to the other side of the world, in the service that specializes in landing those troops on a hostile beach with no friendly infrastructure, in a milieu when it is no longer considered acceptable to supply your troops by allowing them to pillage the countryside, you are…

It's not just remote deployments where it matters. There is no deployment scenario that is not heavily dependant on logistics. This is more true in protracted land deployments of troops across large distances, not less so. No matter the strategy, logistics must match it or success is significantly more difficult. Take Napoleon w/ Russia, where Napoleon's ambition out ran his logistics. His strategy and tactics had yi…

Post by kqr » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 5:41 PM UTC

ineedasername wrote: post #118

kqr wrote: post #116

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That kind of makes sense, though. The tail risk of something like AWS must to be significant in comparison, so a hefty margin to insure against that seems reasonable. Sale and distribution of things is probably much milder in its variations, and the expenses seem like they'd be more strongly correlated with revenue. (All of this is a speculative attempt at explaining the figures, not an authoritative source on strate…

Why would the tail risk of AWS be so high? Apart from the economic troubles of COVID which increased online buying, normal periodic economic downturn would be expected to hit all retail businesses fairly hard. Amazon's non retail unit AWS grew significantly throughout the 2008-2010 economic downturn.

Post by walleeee » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 9:08 PM UTC

dragontamer wrote: post #31

xiphias2 wrote: post #11

I see ships being overloaded a good problem to have. The more countries trade with eachother, the less reason they have to fight wars with eachother.

> The more countries trade with eachother, the less reason they have to fight wars with eachother. WW1 pretty much proved that wrong. Europe was trading a lot with each other. That didn't stop all the rivalries from starting up and causing the general "Great Game" feeling between powers. For now, it seems like DEMOCRACY is the best thing to prevent wars. Democracies don't like fighting against other democracies: it s…

Post by walleeee » Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 9:45 PM UTC

dragontamer wrote: post #148

walleeee wrote: post #147

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The President of the United States, 2 days ago: "We’re in a competition with China and other countries to win the 21st Century." The leading global purveyor of DEMOCRACY is deeply embedded in the dangerous game you describe

I'm not sure if you are aware of the term "Great Game". But it refers to a particular philosophy which has been dead since the early 1900s. The "Great Game" was a huge reason why WW1 broke out. Back then, social Darwinism was considered a good thing. To win a war and prove that you're superior was honorable. Imperialism was reaching its highest points. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game Under the "Great Gam…