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Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by Tenoke »

BLanen wrote: post #71

Lose your key? Lose your domain, forever, for everyone, irreversible by any legal intervention. Yea, fuck that. Also, as with 99% of "smart contracts". The main contract which allows for updating the smart contract, and thus is ultimately in control of everything, is controlled by 1 private key. Nice "trustless". Just gotta trust this one entity never to make a mistake. Also, this has literally already been done at l…

If I lose my ssh key I lose access to any data on my server, too with no recourse and we are fine with that.

It's a trade-off but some people can take care of their keys and prefer that risk which they've covered over a risk that a third party can take control which they can't cover. It's fine if you are not one of those people but not everyone has your needs.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

#142

Post by gsnedders »

tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

> 2008: Linköping, Sweden

looks incredibly skeptical at this

My memory of 2009–13 was very much the decisions about Presto being made by people in Oslo.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by rjmunro »

SheinhardtWigCo wrote: post #8

All you need to know: > Will My Life Change? > Yes, my friend! It will because you can easily build your own decentralized website and simplify your cross wallet crypto payments, share music and photos (not just of my kids), start a business, secure and verify your identity “on chain”, or showcase your brilliant NFT art gallery.

"easily"?

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by rjmunro »

e3bc54b2 wrote: post #128
retrac wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What happens when the blockchain does not reflect the actual legal situation of ownership? For example, assuming a classic blockchain model where my property deed is given to me as a private key, and I have to sign the transaction to transfer the property, what happens when I lose the key and yet the city has expropriated my lot to build a park? This seems to require the authorities to have some kind of master key or…

I suppose the answer to that would be to treat blockchain as the record of truth. Kind of how if you have properly motorized property papers (I have no idea how this works in US), and find your land was inappropriately allocated by county without your knowledge you get to sue them, just with block chain record instead of paper.

But what if the key is lost? No one could update the blockchain. The property would become impossible to own.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by ziml77 »

intotheabyss wrote: post #90
imiric wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a fair point, and I don't have an answer. Presumably there would be enough TLDs to ensure a unique name is not as important, as it's just a short label anyway. Maybe there could be an expiration or some kind of override mechanism built into the protocol, though I'm not familiar with NFTs to know if this is feasible. I'm not saying there wouldn't be challenges with this approach, but it seems worth a try if it…

The ENS (Ethereum Name Service) technically loans out the domain names and they are put up again on the market if the owner of the domain doesn't renew it before expiry.

That sounds like a reasonable way to handle it.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by verandaguy »

TeeMassive wrote: post #122
verandaguy wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with you in principle, but I also disagree with your example. No doubt, China uses this kind of opportunity to spy on users, which I think is plenty good a reason to stop using Opera. OTOH, Google's also spying on its users for profit (at the very least). Please consider using Firefox. They're currently a very competent browser, and their principles are still rock-solid. If you still prefer Chrome but want to…

Mozilla has openly gone pro deplatforming recently: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2021/01/08/we-need-more-than-d... > Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms. > Additional precise and specific actions must also be taken: > Reveal who is paying for advertisements, how much they are paying and who is being targeted.…

I didn't know about that, thanks for the link! I do agree with some of their points though: transparency in advertising and how algorithms pick content for users, as well as facilitating disinformation/misinformation research would be (in my mind) a pretty big win these days. Deplatforming's more dangerous in general, though.

I'll second EFF here though, they're fantastic.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by elzbardico »

throwaway_isms wrote: post #14
nonameiguess wrote: post #9

Why on earth do you want to decentralize personal belongings? I absolutely want my possessions centralized, in storage locations I own. That is the much more obvious solution than putting personal possessions on a blockchain. If you want to store digital tokens for your kids that you can be reasonably assured will still be there when they become adults, use thumb drives. Keep them in a fireproof safe if you're really…

> my mom has managed to keep all the videos and photos of key events in my childhood safe and intact for 40 years without having to put them on a public distributed ledger No offense, but in all likelihood no one is attempting to counterfeit or pirate your Mom's videos and photos of your childhood, and ownership/p2p ownership transfers are not material. There are almost infinite real world examples were ownership rec…

Brasil solves the problem of land titles with a central land ownership database feed by private local notaries under jurisdiction of the department of justice. In some remote locations there are still fraud, but because the local notaries are corrupt. Not a problem that a distributed database would solve. A blockchain only gives a certain guarantee that the records haven’t been altered, but not that the information was input correctly in the first place.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by 3np »

88840-8855 wrote: post #124
Galanwe wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't quite understand your point. You are basically implying that opera is beyond rescue because the governance moved from a country you value to countries you value less?

I can only assume that he is implying that any involvement of/by Chinese people is a very bad thing per se.

Not by Chinese people, by the CCP. Which it becomes as effect of being controlled by a legal entity in PRC. This has nothing to do with ethnicity or culture and everything to do with the current political situation in China.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

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Post by account42 »

Tenoke wrote: post #141
BLanen wrote: post #71

Lose your key? Lose your domain, forever, for everyone, irreversible by any legal intervention. Yea, fuck that. Also, as with 99% of "smart contracts". The main contract which allows for updating the smart contract, and thus is ultimately in control of everything, is controlled by 1 private key. Nice "trustless". Just gotta trust this one entity never to make a mistake. Also, this has literally already been done at l…

If I lose my ssh key I lose access to any data on my server, too with no recourse and we are fine with that. It's a trade-off but some people can take care of their keys and prefer that risk which they've covered over a risk that a third party can take control which they can't cover. It's fine if you are not one of those people but not everyone has your needs.

> If I lose my ssh key I lose access to any data on my server, too with no recourse and we are fine with that.

Do you? Most hosting setups will have other ways to get to the data.

Re: Opera adds native support for blockchain domain names

#150

Post by tpmx »

gsnedders wrote: post #142
tpmx wrote: post #20

Opera is beyond rescue. As someone who spent a decade working there it saddens me to say so, but please don't use it. Actual, executive day-to-day control over the browser tech has progressed sort of like this: 1995: Oslo, Norway 2008: Linköping, Sweden 2014: Wrocław, Poland 2020: Beijing, PRC (the sale happened in 2016, but they were hands-off for quite some time; I think they were being busy with shady fintech stuf…

> 2008: Linköping, Sweden looks incredibly skeptical at this My memory of 2009–13 was very much the decisions about Presto being made by people in Oslo.

Presto, sure. And yes, it was a little cheeky, hence the "sort of".
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