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Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #79

Malls could be the best co-working offices. Ample daytime parking, baller food courts, medical facilities, hair dressers, dentists, cafes, movie theaters, entertainment, etc all under one roof.

Many malls I've been to had working offices on some floor or section of it, but they're not as visible as the store fronts. I'm sure they are great offices as well.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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First they got rid of the music stores. Then bookstores disappeared. Without them, there is no fun in going to the mall, haven't been to one in ages.

And before that, the arcades.

Painful, that was :(

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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Their stonk says otherwise.

We like the stonk

Lol, and throughout all that saga, are there not still $2'ish shorts out there requiring interest payments?

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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I will not give this garbage source a click

they'd conveniently ignore all the looting in the name of "social justice" that pushed a whole lot of businesses over the edge, mostly small mom-and-pop shops. WaPo played a big part in it spreading misinformation and inciting riots.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #79

Malls could be the best co-working offices. Ample daytime parking, baller food courts, medical facilities, hair dressers, dentists, cafes, movie theaters, entertainment, etc all under one roof.

I love how in the US, instead of building all these services and offices near each other and walkable from people's homes, we insist on ideas that force people to drive dozens of miles to get a walkable and convenient experience.

I've lived in a few different suburbs and generally there has always been a mall within a mile or so. Certainly never dozens of miles.

Jobs are different since you generally don't work at the nearest one.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #114

is this a American thing? here in Canada malls are doing well and we keep building even more sometimes next to busy malls... its strange even they tell us Toys R Us is gone? yet they are not closed here basically all the malls have a Toys R Us.. whats up with the states?

Online retail happened, and it's not just America [1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_mall#Changes_in_the_retai...

and yet i don't see any of this in Canada, malls packed, more malls built and Toys R Us still in all of them. What could be the difference between Canada and USA?

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #79

Malls could be the best co-working offices. Ample daytime parking, baller food courts, medical facilities, hair dressers, dentists, cafes, movie theaters, entertainment, etc all under one roof.

They were originally conceived of along those lines. The implementation didn't match the vision of the inventor.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #121

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Ok but the perfect isn't the enemy of the good here. Being able to go for a climate-controlled one-kilometer walk every lunch break is a real luxury for a lot of people, it's way better than a cell in some high-rise near the highway. The mall could have a hackerspace too! It has potential.

The simple solution is work from home because most people already have a home, and simple solutions win. The only reason you're mentioning malls is because they are there, but unless you're a mall-walker on the weekends, I'm pretty sure the average developer's definition of a good lunch break isn't "walking past the mall McDonald's 3 times before returning to your mall wework" or whatever.

> because most people already have a home

Assuming that everyone has a comfortable and spacious home with a desk&chair area is, well, a bad assumption.

A bunch of people I know are now working significantly more time from a couch, in a clearly non-ergonomic position. We will see and hear about the real damage 5 years from now.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok but the perfect isn't the enemy of the good here. Being able to go for a climate-controlled one-kilometer walk every lunch break is a real luxury for a lot of people, it's way better than a cell in some high-rise near the highway. The mall could have a hackerspace too! It has potential.

The simple solution is work from home because most people already have a home, and simple solutions win. The only reason you're mentioning malls is because they are there, but unless you're a mall-walker on the weekends, I'm pretty sure the average developer's definition of a good lunch break isn't "walking past the mall McDonald's 3 times before returning to your mall wework" or whatever.

If they add a free arcade, I'm in.

Re: Mall department stores were struggling; the pandemic has pushed them to the edge

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is this a American thing? here in Canada malls are doing well and we keep building even more sometimes next to busy malls... its strange even they tell us Toys R Us is gone? yet they are not closed here basically all the malls have a Toys R Us.. whats up with the states?

They overbuilt 20-30 years ago and buildings are designed to go 20-30 years between major capital expenditure. A big part of that business is syndicating and selling tax write offs... no capital investment breaks that. So now malls are facing envelopement from discount stores and big box, plus the ever growing threat of Amazon and other e-commerce. The malls that get investment are pivoting to supermarket anchors and…

oh your thinking they just built to many?
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