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Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

#142
Does Standard Notes require a network connection to store data, or is data stored locally and synced when a network connection is available?

I wonder how important (offline) local first storage of data is these days to users of these types of apps?

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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I'm always curious who is behind a company. How many people work there, how it is funded, where they are based, type of corporation, etc. These things make a big difference. Eg I typically trust a non profit that's been around for a couple of years more than a venture funded startup that just launched. This company doesn't even state where they are based or what the name of the company is on the website. They have a…

I guess this is feedback to them, then. They have a longevity statement https://standardnotes.org/longevity but this is talk, and you need to see some more foundational information that demonstrates that it's worth taking their word about longevity.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Standard Notes is a phenomenal note taking app and one of the first to bring encryption in note taking. They take security very seriously and have multiple third party audits. With that said, the bad outweigh the good. I don't mean to be a pessimist here (SN is inspirational) but: 1. Their free plan is extremely lacking. You can't even try out many of their editors. 2. Their pro plan mostly only offers editors. I am…

the way they have their free and paid features separated seems pretty lame. with other note taking services, if i decide to go back to the free tier for a while it will still be useable for the most part but with standard notes i would lose basic features like the ability to organise notes or to edit them in the same way. so basically once you start paying you are locked in for life

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

#145
I find those discussions around how secure this app is or not is pretty funny.

The answer is: It's not. Not for any kind of end device attack. You are literally typing a note into a text field provided by the OS. You are reading it in an app through the OS rendering system.

It is in clear-text in memory several times.

There's no privacy on the internet. There's only hurdles of maybe increasing difficulty, but the decision to use a cloud-based note-taking app should be around the actual important features.

Yes, I still want apps I'm using to follow best practices with encryption for data in transfer and at rest, but can't be the main trick.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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post #119

I'm always curious who is behind a company. How many people work there, how it is funded, where they are based, type of corporation, etc. These things make a big difference. Eg I typically trust a non profit that's been around for a couple of years more than a venture funded startup that just launched. This company doesn't even state where they are based or what the name of the company is on the website. They have a…

Their twitter is from 2016. Their linked blog has posts going back to 2017. Their FAQ covers their core dependencies: https://standardnotes.org/help/52/what-services-does-standar... What your options are if they go out of business: https://standardnotes.org/help/4/what-happens-to-my-data-if-... Where they are based, where their servers are, and why they've made the choices they have: https://standardnotes.org/help/39…

"Office address" is that of their lawyers, which is not uncommon, but it also means that they aren't necessarily US-based.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=350+N+Orleans+St.+STE+9000N+Chicag...

GP's concern is a very valid one. The identity of developers and their location makes an absolutely crucial difference for a project that roots itself in the crypto tech. Being wishy-washy with this info is exceptionally unhelpful as it is damaging.

In this case, the actual company can be from an origin (or a country) that would make you think twice before even installing it, leave alone letting it touch any of your data. Them being vague here adds more questions than it answers.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Exactly this. Joplin kinda blows the competition out of the water in every aspect. The sync works flawlessly and this is one of the strongest features it has. I set it up using WebDAV and never ever had to worry about it working.

When I tried the joplin app 9 months ago, the mobile app on iOS was just plain broken. As far as E2EE note apps with mobile and desktop apps that sync go when I last looked in 2020, you have Standard Notes, Joplin, Inkdrop, Amplenote, Day One and DevonThink. I tried out Inkdrop seriously, but it wasn't better enough for me to switch and was more expensive than standard notes. A lot of these apps are $5/month, and I f…

For Joplin, review the sync settings. Sorry I forget which one it is but on iOS there was a bad default and once you change it the mobile app works like a dream.

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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I don’t think they’re a startup. They are a software company selling a saas though. .com for commercial, .org for non commercial organisations is the historic breakdown. Sure, people use all sorts of domain extensions these days. That said I don’t think Twitch is trying to trick people in to thinking they’re based in Tuvalu whereas I can’t say the same with this company and being a non commercial organisation. Don’t…

Clearly a VC-funded startup is worse than a bootstrapped one, but IMO whether or not a company is a startup or not comes down to if they want exponential growth or not. It doesn't say that they do on the website but I nowadays assume that if they didn't, they'd proudly proclaim it. But I could be wrong about the startup part and they in fact just want to be a profitable small business.

Not to belabor the "startup" debate but they actually do discuss growth goals on the blog:

"We don't want to speak for you, but we're sure you've felt it: Ever notice how your favorite applications seem to get slower over time? That's no coincidence. They call that "growth". It happens because panicked teams were frantically trying to throw more functions at what was a good idea for some stupid business goal. And a good idea turns into something that isn't, real quick. That thing you loved metastasized into something you hate.

If simplicity keeps us from adding features, so be it. Standard Notes is officially an anti-growth company. We don't mind. We set out to do one thing well: Allow you to write your notes and thoughts privately without friction, on every device you own..."

https://blog.standardnotes.org/why-simplicity-is-the-only-wa...

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly a VC-funded startup is worse than a bootstrapped one, but IMO whether or not a company is a startup or not comes down to if they want exponential growth or not. It doesn't say that they do on the website but I nowadays assume that if they didn't, they'd proudly proclaim it. But I could be wrong about the startup part and they in fact just want to be a profitable small business.

Not to belabor the "startup" debate but they actually do discuss growth goals on the blog: "We don't want to speak for you, but we're sure you've felt it: Ever notice how your favorite applications seem to get slower over time? That's no coincidence. They call that "growth". It happens because panicked teams were frantically trying to throw more functions at what was a good idea for some stupid business goal. And a g…

Hmm, I don't interpret that to be a statement about the growth of the user base or revenue, but about not adding new features to the product?

Re: Standard Notes is a safe place for your notes, thoughts, and life's work

#150

I really miss tomboy (not the new ng version). I used it for years and it was amazing. Rich text without having to use markdown. Razor fast responsiveness when searching. Instant hyperlinks just by typing the name of another note. Excellent keyboard shortcuts too. I really miss it but it was no longer maintained and falling into disrepair on newer OSes due to lacking support for DPI scaling and dark modes. I use onen…

Seems Zim Wiki is still being actively maintained, I liked it better than Tomboy when I tried them both years ago

Zim is the best, good speed, files stored as plain text, fast indexing. I use it for personal and work, auto backup with Dropbox or G Drive.
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