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Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Apple gives an OS away for free - users never see advertisements. Microsoft charges $100 for Windows 10, virtually every corner of the experience is riddled with advertisements and marketing crap.

Macs show an advert for iCloud after most large updates. Maybe it doesn't show up if you're signed in.

And "search with google" keeps pushing you to safari https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17935301/how-to-force-ma...

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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post #51

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You have never had Candy Crush-esque apps installed automatically?

I really don't know everything that is installed on my computer - do you on yours? I can say I have never seen the thing. And anyway, surely that is a game, not an ad?

Which is paid to be preinstalled and put in your face every time you open the start menu.

I'd go as far to say it is adware.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Just this week, I discovered that even after installing Python from the official website, if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" instead of "python", you'll instead trigger an unhelpful link to the Microsoft Store suggesting to install python from there. Yes, the command line itself has ads for the store sprinkled throughout it. Later, when I needed to pull down the Rust compiler, I discovered that the…

if you happen to run a script that executes "python3" Funny thing is, this is actually wrong on Windows and always has been. Unless I'm missing something. I recently traced back the earliest python3 installer on the official ftp site of python.org and even that one didn't have a python3 command. No official installers seem to have had it. Nor does an Anaconda install. So I don't really know why the 'official' (that i…

The official Python installer in the Windows App store installs a handler for python and python3 .. or rather, the stub of the handlers already on your system calls into the app store and it's behavior changes after installation. Regardless of the technical implementation, after you install Python3 from the app store, running python3 from the command line will open the Python interpreter.

No clue why the standard non-app store installer doesn't add python3 to the path to mimic this behavior.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Can you walk me through how you're reading that? I don't understand how you have reached that conclusion.

From the article: > "the pop-up will appear even when Microsoft Edge is the default browser... The company is not targeting people who use Google Chrome and Firefox as default browsers." Translation: it will show up for everyone, not just for Chrome and Firefox users.

It's a weird sentence. Doesn't "The company is not targeting people who use Google Chrome and Firefox as default browsers." imply that they aren't showing it to Chrome and Firefox users?

The former part seems to imply to me that you get this suggestion even if you've already used the feature.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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The are a number of Windows settings for turning off what it calls "suggestions". Do a search in the Settings app for "suggest", click "Show all results" and see what comes up. Amongst them are: * Show suggestions occasionally in Start * Show suggestions in your timeline * Suggest ways I can finish setting up my device to get the most out of Windows * Get tips, tricks and suggestions as you use Windows * Turn off sug…

Imagine paying money for an os and having to go through this song and dance to not have your productivity tool become an ad infested unproductivity tool

Have you never spent time configuring an operating system?

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Remember, you're paying money for this treatment. Reminds me of cable TV, honestly.

It's interesting. Lots of people pay and put up with ads for the convenience of cable TV. But I'll happily pay and memorize where my shows are to enjoy Netflix, Hulu and one or two other streaming apps so I can avoid ads but still enjoy my shows (though for network shows, there's often a waiting period before I get to watch them). There, the price difference per month was one of the driving factors. With my PC, I cou…

I just do work stuff on my Linux machine and play stuff on my Windows machine. Couldn't be happier! I've been running Manjaro Linux on 3 workstations for over 2 years now and, as a web developer who does mostly Node/React/React Native, I haven't needed anything from Windows. The best part is not having to fiddle with Windows specific issues all the time.

I have even worked on .net core projects with vs code and run SQL server in a docker container.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Really where? I’ve never heard of adverts on a MacBook for their hardware at all. Only one is for iCloud and that’s if you got their 5GB limit. Other services for when launch the app for the first time and safari for when you use a browser for the first time that’s not safari.

* When I buy a new Macbook or upgrade the OS, I get a "walkthrough" of new features which tends to include integration with other Apple devices. * Most Apple apps (e.g. Home, Messages, Photos, Maps, Podcasts, FindMy) advertise their integration with other Apple hardware. * Only pre-installed browser is Safari, and the homepage is apple.com. They might not be blatant, but I'd highly surprised if the marketing departme…

Also if you've ever hit play/pause on the keyboard it launches Apple Music.

And not macOS, but in iOS they've had a giant row offering an Apple Arcade subscription trial at the top of Settings for a while

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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post #104

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Can you walk me through how you're reading that? I don't understand how you have reached that conclusion.

Sure. I think the key to my interpretation is "even when". > the pop-up will appear *even when* Microsoft Edge is the default browser "Even when" says to me that this scenario is in addition to some other scenario, which must inevitably be when Edge isn't the default browser.

Ah. I see how you are reading that now. Now I'm not sure how to take that sentence.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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Does OSX do this with the xcode tools?

Yes, and as a linux admin and user who is stuck on MacOS for work, it drives me absolutely nuts, even more so when people defend apple or microsoft with justifications that the other does it. They both suck.

I don't really think being told to run `xcode-select --install` is worse than being thrown into the Microsoft Store, because one is a flow-breaking action, and the other is not. If I'm at a Terminal and I don't have something installed, the fastest way to resolve the problem is with a Terminal command.

Re: Windows 10 taskbar is now pushing Microsoft Edge web apps

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> Example being that you MUST use chrome webview when using the google search app. On my Pixel, when I start a search from the home screen, and then click on a result, it opens that page in Firefox.

How did you get it to do that? I have a Pixel 4a, but the Google app will only open results in a Chrome webview, even when I use Firefox or Brave as my default browser everywhere else. I don't use the Pixel launcher if that matters. I would actually like to fix it. Edit: I figured it out. I'm not allowed to uninstall Chrome, but disabling it made it finally use Brave as a fallback. So they actually implement using wh…

I didn't have to disable Chrome. I do have the "Open pages in the app" setting disabled though.
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