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I am confused how speech recognition tech is worth 20 billion. It’s not even on the most popular platforms like iPhone, android or the desktops even. Can someone shed some light on this?

"Enterprise sales" and "health care": https://investors.nuance.com/download/NUAN+%28Nuance+Communi...

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Siri is a train wreck. I have a $1200 phone where it takes more time to do “hey Siri FaceTime so-and-so” than to navigate. It just sits and spins.

Siri is especially bad when compared to Google Assistant or Amazon Alexa, both of which are light years ahead. Usual Apple reliance on their fans buying their devices no matter how bad the software is.

I’m always surprised when people shit on Siri. I use it all the time for simple commands, and it works pretty reliably.

I’ve never used anything non-Apple nor have I used any non-phone voice assistant, so I’m not in a position to compare, but as long as it calls the people that I want, sets timers and alarms as needed, and routes me to my city of choice, why would I care?

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I'm curious who you think is actually out there laboring under the assumption that healthcare becomes absolutely, and literally, free?

A lot of Europeans in the lower taxpaying tiers who love to shit on Americans (especially when the American healthcare system has been getting so much coverage the past decade).

As someone who was born under the NHS in Scotland, grew up in Australia under its Medicare system (and the introduction of partial privatiz(s)ation), and has lived in the US since 2006, no-one is laboring under that misapprehension. Medicare tax is indeed a line item on Australian taxation paperwork.

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And now you know why there will never ever ever be “free healthcare for all” in the US because this is how profitable sickness is. Plandemic.

>>“free healthcare for all” There never has been and will never be 'free healthcare for all' - its not free, it's only free for some people if some other people pay for it.

The more correct term for universal healthcare rather than free should be cheaper as everyone with such systems wind up spending much less on healthcare than the USA. We basically spend as much per capita on our public system than other countries do on healthcare overall, and then we also have a private system that is even more costly.

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Is it just me or have speech recognition platforms like Siri actually gone backwards in the last few years (roughly coinciding with the AI/ML craze)? It feels (anecdata) that Siri is doing a bit better on voice to tex when sending messages but much worse on simple commands like “turn off living room lights”.

Siri is a train wreck. I have a $1200 phone where it takes more time to do “hey Siri FaceTime so-and-so” than to navigate. It just sits and spins.

My favourite:

"Hey Siri, make a Facetime call to Bob Smith." "Which Bob Smith would you like to call? bobsmith@icloud.com or bobsmith@me.com?

How at this point does Siri not have even the most basic of logic to know that it's literally the same person. That's Apple's OWN service.

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(gonna be downvoted to death) Usually Apple die-hard buyers tend to minimize the importance of software/features that are not sported by an i-device or that doesn't work well there. When the 1st iPhone was released, the lack of native apps was a selling point "we use the web standards". When apps were introduced, they were again a selling point (and still are to the present day). The day Siri will work equal to/bette…

What are you getting at? Assuming bad faith, or that Apple buyers are unable to evaluate purchase decisions objectively?

No, I'm saying that Apple buyers are usually satisfied with their purchase for several reasons already. One feature not working as expected is just ignored/not needed.

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Same with the Audi. I don’t understand why all the car companies aren’t licensing the assistant technology from the big tech companies and using it as the default. I get Siri via car play, but even car play is sandboxed because it can’t control things like the radio or temperature.

Android Auto at least works, and that in turn has voice recognition that works. It's completely "meta" that I have to use voice recognition on my phone to call a number that triggers bluetooth that activates the hands-free and speaker in the car.

I would argue that in-car infotainment systems should be nothing but a dumb terminal into your phone. We already have devices with voice recognition, navigation, multimedia, etc. Why don't we have a way to just use that?

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A lot of Europeans in the lower taxpaying tiers who love to shit on Americans (especially when the American healthcare system has been getting so much coverage the past decade).

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> The European ones are vast communist machines that can't pay for themselves.

Do you have any proof of that?

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Siri is a train wreck. I have a $1200 phone where it takes more time to do “hey Siri FaceTime so-and-so” than to navigate. It just sits and spins.

Siri is especially bad when compared to Google Assistant or Amazon Alexa, both of which are light years ahead. Usual Apple reliance on their fans buying their devices no matter how bad the software is.

The thing that makes my iPhone worse is that it's hard to use Google Assistant (haven't tried Alexa) with my iPhone. I can't make Google Assistant the default voice interface. I can say "hey siri hey google", but honestly I'm not doing that. Google Assistant is decent, but it's not amazing. For any non-trivial task, I still have to do look things up manually.

And while I'm ranting... the thing I hate most of about all of these services is they don't have a profanity mode. In the privacy of my own home I have AN EFFIN' HUGE POTTY MOUTH. I love to curse. I LOVE IT. The fact that I can't get one of these services to talk to me like a middle school student is extremely disappointing. I don't want to be politically correct when I'm talking to a virtual assistant in a private setting. I want to say "Hey goognizzle, are there any good mother f***ing movies opening near me this weekend?" and get Samuel L. Jackson style "Here's the mother f***ing movies opening on mother f***ing Friday at the 5 mother f***ing theaters closest to mother f***ing you."*

Edit: TIL how to faux curse on HN. To type display "f***ing", I need to type out "f\*\*\*ing".

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A lot of Europeans in the lower taxpaying tiers who love to shit on Americans (especially when the American healthcare system has been getting so much coverage the past decade).

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When I left Australia, which is now 14 years ago, so grain of salt: you paid 1% income tax for Medicare, unless you were above a certain income level, in which it became 1.5%. If you opted out of the system, you could purchase private insurance, and would not be subject to this tax. There was a floor, where below or near "minimum income" levels, you were also not required to pay this tax.

> For instance, you can use taxpayers money to give birth if you want, but you don't choose the date, you don't get a room for long and no way you get a C-Section unless you risk dying.

This makes absolutely no sense. Short of induction agents, which have varying degrees of efficacy, if you're not getting a C-section, the healthcare industry, hospital, don't decide when you give birth, you/your baby do.

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