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GitHub, fuck your name change

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Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I would agree "slave" seems a weird choice of a word but I can see nothing wrong in "master". Not a single moment in my life I thought about slavery when hearing/seeing the word "master". Should we also rename master degrees perhaps?

Master bedroom, master record, master copy. The word master is just a synonym for main.

Company I'm currently working for deals with real estate drawings. We were notified recently that we're changing "Master bedroom" to "Main bedroom" too.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

I agree that master->main is pretty pointless. But what about getting rid of "slave", "blacklist" and "whitelist". The last two kind of opened my eyes to connotation of black and white, that may be problematic to some. Also I find "allow/denylist" more descriptive, maybe that helps.

The issue with that is that those words (blacklist/whitelist specifically) have no connotation to race.

It's not an issue. The etymology of the words have nothing to do with race.

Trying to get people to change them _creates_ that link.

There are real issues that could be focused on to bring about effective change. Not this.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

>We need to keep voicing these thoughts so that decision-makers in large companies have a chance to hear us and realize that they should focus on more useful issues instead. I suppose they are not doing it for your feeling's sake. They are doing it to avoid being a target of a woke mob feigning offense for their own ideological gain in the on-going identity culture war which is happening in the west.

I read the parent comment to mean that by pro-actively making changes in an effort you avoid the woke buffoons, while completely ignoring the voices of those who ought matter most, you're admitting defeat and in doing so granting the buffoons yet more power.

I'd argue if someone is feigning offense we should call them out on it, not collectively fucking prostrate ourselves.

This whole fiasco just makes me wonder what the hell is going on in the background while we're being distracted by this... surströmming-level red herring.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I teach 2 git classes each year. I used to use GitHub for the pull/push section of the class, but last autumn half the class got stuck with branch name mismatches. I switched to GitLab in the next class. Surely this is just anecdata, but it seems to me that there can be real commercial consequences to letting your business get hijacked by the thought police.

Sounds like you should just update your teaching material to match how GitHub works.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

I will never go along with that farce, especially when I learned that a bunch of people bullied Antirez for years in order to force him to change the language in Redis.

http://antirez.com/news/122

It serves absolutely no purpose, other than for a group of people to feel like they have an ideological hold on the IT industry. Some of these people are already coming with new lists of "forbidden words" they are trying to impose with the old same excuse of "diversity and inclusiveness". Enough.

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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Fun fact, in a mean time, so far, no one targeted the term "scrum master" yet.

Despite this being the closest to software dev modern slavery in big companies ...

So, please, can we profit of that to cancel the usage of 'scrum' everywhere ? :-)

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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There are parts of this article I agree with, and parts I disagree with, but this part just screaaaaams "I cannot possibly picture that any part of the world is in any way different from the US": > “Meritocracy!”, I hear you cry. “They pick from the most talented students. The ones that worked the hardest to get into the most elite schools. The black students should have just worked harder”. I guess mummy and daddy p…

Also, it’s surprising considering the author mentions having aggro with police in London. it’s certainly unfortunate that the Metropolitan police decided to racially profile him. However, statistically, more people die in police custody in the land of the free than in Britain, so this terrible incident doesn’t represent the quality of policing in the UK.

Tertiary education in the U.K. can be expensive (unless you are Scottish), but university admissions are open to everyone without having to donate millions for a library

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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I feel like this topic has been discussed a lot already, but I think it's important to keep pushing back against useless wasted man-hours like this effort is. I live in a country that was almost entirely enslaved by foreigners for ~700 years. I've discussed this rename with dozens of engineers in my country. Without exception, every single one of them thinks it's completely ridiculous. We need to keep voicing these t…

>We need to keep voicing these thoughts so that decision-makers in large companies have a chance to hear us and realize that they should focus on more useful issues instead. I suppose they are not doing it for your feeling's sake. They are doing it to avoid being a target of a woke mob feigning offense for their own ideological gain in the on-going identity culture war which is happening in the west.

> on-going identity culture war which is happening in the west.

I'd love to see some demographics around this. When I lived in the bay area, most of my friends were part of this woke / "activist" community. I had some friends who disagreed, but mostly they were terrified to say so for fear of the mob.

Here in Australia, it seems like the demographics are the other way around. I know a few people who are part of the leftist woke / "activist" tribe. But most people I interact with socially think that while racism is a problem, the twitter mobs are a bit silly, and the woke stuff is overblown.

I don't know how you'd measure, but I'd love to see stats on what percentage of the communities in different cities hold this political stance. Is it growing or shrinking? Is it widespread in the west, or is it mostly just a bay area / portland / NY phenomenon - with small satellite groups in other countries?

Re: GitHub, fuck your name change

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There sure are a lot of people here who read this as saying "don't change anything", rather than the actual message "this is nowhere near big enough a change". Here is what the article actually says:

> We’re going to change the branch name because it could be seen as offensive but we’re still going to sell police facial recognition software that is biased against black people and women. Facial recognition software that misidentifies black people as gorillas. Facial recognition software that was used to identify unmasked BLM protesters. We’re going to change the branch name to be more inclusive of minorities but we’re going to carry on selling software to ICE. Get the fuck outta here.

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