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Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by redis_mlc »

totalZero wrote: post #15
gkoberger wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I edited my comment. The full quotes are much worse. Here's the details: https://techcrunch.com/2016/11/12/pro-trump-ceo-gets-booted-...

Thanks, and wow... he sounds like a perpetual drain on the energy and sanity of all of the people around him.

Nope. I read his comments, and they're reasonable. A country is defined by its border, which requires a fence or wall.

If you want to see a YC alumnus with silly comments, read Sam Altmans's link about his political leanings. What a tool:

https://blog.samaltman.com/the-2016-election

Hillary Clinton is one of the most corrupt politicians in American history. She paid off a British informant to start Trump's first impeachment, and has accepted up to $2 billion from the Saudis for her family's foundation.

And Trump has never said a racist thing. If you don't believe me, try to find a single quote. He's called a racist because he blocked corona passengers from the Chinese mainland, and he wouldn't denounce certain groups at the behest of leftists. Makes sense to me.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by encryptluks2 »

kristopolous wrote: post #101
spamizbad wrote: post #40

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True but it’s also free speech and as such should be permitted on a social network oriented around free speech. Unless trolling doesn’t count as free speech?

They have their own definitions of lots of things. Free speech, as far as I can tell, to them, means they can make any claim they want, >, and not have to be consistent or responsible for any consequences. To them, oppression is someone challenging their claims, at all, ever. They believe it's a form of control and a violation of their core liberties. You violated that. I'm a member of DSA and volunteer for leftist a…

They flocked there claiming they were being censored by other social media networks saying it a bastion of free speech, yet they are censoring too for less than what many of them were banned from other platforms for. I agree with what you're saying, that as long as you kind of tow the line you're fine... but Twitter or a plethora of regular social media networks aren't going to censor me as I'm not providing nefarious health advice, threatening people, or telling minorities and people of a different sexual orientation that they are subhuman.

People on Gab will say far worse, and as long as it aligns with their political beliefs it is fine with Gab. In fact, I think it aligns with the owner's beliefs based on his comments. I just wanted everyone to know it isn't a free speech platform.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by encryptluks2 »

gfosco wrote: post #90
spamizbad wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True but it’s also free speech and as such should be permitted on a social network oriented around free speech. Unless trolling doesn’t count as free speech?

With that definition, would you think unlimited spam is also ok? Most likely you got reported by the community and picked up by the same sort of algorithm that exists on every other platform.

Spam would indicate some type of repetitious behavior, or unwanted advertisement. A single snarky comment generally wouldn't be considered spam. Every other platform would be fine with the comment.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by encryptluks2 »

jb775 wrote: post #22
encryptluks2 wrote: post #5

Gab is a joke. I got banned for making a post asking how are all the domestic terrorists Trump supporters doing after the capitol riot. I guess that is ban-worthy on their free speech network while advocating for assassinating public officials is a-ok.

I bet it felt good to create an account for a website just so you could log in and say "how are all the domestic terrorists Trump supporters doing after the capitol riot?". That's pretty much the online equivalent of peeling-out in your car and thinking it made you look awesome.

Actually it would be more equivalent to showing up at a Blue Lives Matter event in a pig costume. There are content creators dedicated to similar content and it does make them look pretty awesome in my opinion.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by encryptluks2 »

hiram112 wrote: post #86
encryptluks2 wrote: post #5

Gab is a joke. I got banned for making a post asking how are all the domestic terrorists Trump supporters doing after the capitol riot. I guess that is ban-worthy on their free speech network while advocating for assassinating public officials is a-ok.

Probably a difference between actual debate where people disagree and outright trolling. Your comment is the latter.

I'm not sure it is really outright trolling, when the FBI director said that it was indeed far-right groups that were responsible for the capitol riot and not antifa or whomever they're blaming.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by kristopolous »

encryptluks2 wrote: post #142
kristopolous wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They have their own definitions of lots of things. Free speech, as far as I can tell, to them, means they can make any claim they want, >, and not have to be consistent or responsible for any consequences. To them, oppression is someone challenging their claims, at all, ever. They believe it's a form of control and a violation of their core liberties. You violated that. I'm a member of DSA and volunteer for leftist a…

They flocked there claiming they were being censored by other social media networks saying it a bastion of free speech, yet they are censoring too for less than what many of them were banned from other platforms for. I agree with what you're saying, that as long as you kind of tow the line you're fine... but Twitter or a plethora of regular social media networks aren't going to censor me as I'm not providing nefariou…

Let me address one thing before I go on:

> telling minorities and people of a different sexual orientation that they are subhuman.

Remember what I said about about "facilitating speech"? The kinds of people who think in strict eugenicist hierarchies are welcome in the "let a thousand flowers bloom" model.

If you get a chance to go to a rally or watch one on youtube, I recommend it, especially when they have open speech time. People get up there, say the wildest things in the world, like decoding bible passages to decipher stock tickers as an investment strategy, and they give them their time. So of course racist nonsense is welcome as well.

They have values and principles in a comprehensible framework of mutual respect (again, a totally different kind) as long as you take the time to understand it.

Now to the rest:

Would you believe they have different definitions of "censor" as well as "politics"?

Everything they say makes sense in their head. I promise.

But what's in their head is pure madness.

For instance, a woman I was listening to back in April, stay with me for all of it, said we should stay home for covid because she believed covid is fake and was invented by trump so he could do "the storm" and arrest the hidden pedophile network. She thought it was her patriotic duty to stay home during the fake virus so the secret plan could happen. Really... she ends up doing the right thing but the reasons are just padded-room level insane.

So far removed from reality. It's a truly broken way of dealing with the world but they didn't ask for you to pull them out of cartoonland and they're actually happy there. So make gab a trip to the petting zoo and don't fight the animals.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by bawolff »

ben_w wrote: post #134
bawolff wrote: post #118

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The word disgusting literally means to be in extremely poor taste (e.g. "the rotton food i ate was disgusting")

FWIW, regardless of the origins, “poor taste” always seemed to be a more minor condemnation than that when I have witnessed it — things from Frankie Boyle’s standup or Trump’s interior design preferences to the UK Queen announcing austerity while wearing (and sitting on) the royal bling; never

Sure. Hence the "extreme" modifier.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by ALittleLight »

atoav wrote: post #125
ALittleLight wrote: post #48

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Except he did get into YC and he's not a genocidal dictator so much as an angry and inappropriate person online.

As both an former art student and Austrian living in Germany I don't think it is forbidden to think about how Hitler became Hitler. Because for some time of his life Hitler was just some angry guy until he turned to a fully fledged genozidal fascist dictator. Hitlers antisemitism was partly created by his rejection in the viennese academy and his hurt ego made him want to pay them back for the rest of his life. Why s…

There are many, many, more people who blamed scapegoats or were angry than became Hitler or Hitler-like figures. Likening Torba to Hitler because both of them are angry is an extreme and unproductive association. I think it's enough to say "You should treat people with respect" or "You shouldn't say that Mr. Torba", or even "Andrew Torba is a racist/transphobe/etc" without having to liken him to Hitler.

Hitler didn't switch from angry guy to legitimate problem overnight. He did things like forming a political party replete with armed forces and attempting a coup. I don't think building a mostly-failed Twitter clone is comparable.

Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by [deleted] »

chroem- wrote: post #111
roenxi wrote: post #100

Troy has a fair take. Ultimately the Gab breach is interesting, good material for an analysis like this one, and won't matter particularly in the future. At a guess, the people on Gab are there because they feel like they are under sustained political attack. This breach will be interpreted as further evidence that they are under sustained political attack. It won't make anyone behave differently - although I hope Ga…

> the people on Gab are there because they feel like they are under sustained political attack I mean aren't they? I don't see another intellectually honest way of framing this. And yes, I'm aware: Popper's paradox, fighting fascism, etc., etc.

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Re: Gab Has Been Breached

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Post by caf »

ALittleLight wrote: post #137
estreeper wrote: post #131

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The string output from the bcrypt function always contains a 22-character salt embedded within it, so these are salted. This is placed after an initial algorithm identifier (i.e. $2a$) and an adjustable cost used to generate the output string (i.e. 10$). There's an overview of the structure of the output string here if you're interested: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bcrypt However, if your password is "password" or…

Very interesting - thanks. You'd still have to crack each password individually though, right? i.e. for row 1 I would need to try X passwords from my password dictionary, and for each of the attempts bcrypt the guess with the given salt and check to see if worked, and then repeat that for each row individually, rather than checking every row simultaneously.

Right, you have to check each row separately.
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