Our two children are 4 and 6, and they both hold four citizenships. My wife is US American, I am German, my dad is Croatian and we've been living in Switzerland for almost 15 years. When the kids were born, they both had US and German citizenship jus sanguinis. German passports arrived almost instantaneously. The US passports required us to visit the US embassy multiple times and fill out plenty of paper work. Them g…
Second Citizenships, Residencies, and/or Temporary Relocation
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#142I had this exact same experience when renewing my contractor visa in Germany. I'd suggest bringing a printed copy of the requirements list from the German ausländerbehörde website with you whenever you show up to these appointments.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
The European Union member states subscribe to multiple fundamental ideas, one of which is the principle of solidarity. This means that there is a strong social safety net, and we take care of the vulnerable. I do not have to worry about the cost of my medical care or other social needs. I pay my taxes, do my part as a citizen, and I know I will be taken care of. Essentially, because of this I do not have to live in f…
Thanks for sharing. I spent some time in Europe albeit that was a long time ago and I feel like I was too young to experience the hardships of life I'm facing in the US. I know the safety nets you're referring to, they're there for health care, unemployment and worker rights. Things that don't really exist for most people in the US if they're unemployed or in a regular job. I'm lucky to be in a well paid, high lucrat…
Did you check e.g. levels.fyi?
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#144I left the US pre-pandemic for a country that eradicated Covid, and couldn't agree more with the author's decision to leave. Particularly if you're in your 20s and fully remote, I'd highly encourage you to look into Australia or New Zealand's working holiday visa. For fans of E.Asia, the Taiwan gold card [1][2] may be of interest. [1]: https://notebook.wesleyac.com/taiwan/ [2]: https://notebook.wesleyac.com/taiwan-go…
How do you find the timezone change if you work remotely for an American company?
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is this legal? Most countries in the world disallow holding more than 2 citizenships. Do these countries know your kids are holding four? If they do not, they need to be informed.
There are exceptions to the rule (for reference see https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_citizenship ). Generally, a lot depends on whether you acquired citizenship by descent or birth, or acquired it by naturalization. Also, there are agreements between countries that you must consider. For example, had Croatia not entered the EU a couple of years ago, it would not have been possible most likely to aquire citize…
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#146Our two children are 4 and 6, and they both hold four citizenships. My wife is US American, I am German, my dad is Croatian and we've been living in Switzerland for almost 15 years. When the kids were born, they both had US and German citizenship jus sanguinis. German passports arrived almost instantaneously. The US passports required us to visit the US embassy multiple times and fill out plenty of paper work. Them g…
How is this legal? Most countries in the world disallow holding more than 2 citizenships. Do these countries know your kids are holding four? If they do not, they need to be informed.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But, it is way, way, less stressful living here, just in general. Americans have no idea. The taxes are worth the peace of mind along with the stability it gives society. Can you please go on with this point and provide some 1-1 examples you've personally seen? I keep dreaming and have, for the last 5 years, about leaving the US and living in Europe but I feel like I'm throwing away an enormous economic opportunity…
> leaving the US and living in Europe but I feel like I'm throwing away an enormous economic opportunity Check out Luxembourg, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein. These places pay incredibly well and once you factor in the cost of healthcare and general quality of life, the US looks like a bad joke. These three countries’ job market is accessible with a Schengen visa.
Is that true? I'd have assumed that EU citizens have access, but non-EU would need to apply specifically for FL/CH work permits.
(and I'm not sure, is there actually a EU-wide work permit for non-EU? I had the impression that each country is still handling non-EU permit separately)
(tourist visa are different of course)
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#148Our two children are 4 and 6, and they both hold four citizenships. My wife is US American, I am German, my dad is Croatian and we've been living in Switzerland for almost 15 years. When the kids were born, they both had US and German citizenship jus sanguinis. German passports arrived almost instantaneously. The US passports required us to visit the US embassy multiple times and fill out plenty of paper work. Them g…
As a German, why did you get Croatian citizenship for your kids? For sentimental reasons, or were there practical advantages as well?
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, stopping all work for the next 50 years right now wouldn't be realistic with that. But then again, you're definitely not going to be stopping work while trying to accumulate more wealth either.
Correct but with an optimistic projection of working for 5-10 more years, I could stop working forever, unless I want to work for fun / enjoyment (or say no to crappy jobs) and then move to the EU. If I move to the EU now and take a hit in income, that will become impossible.
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#150The premise of the article is to highlight benefits of second citizenship but what stands out in the examples are mostly situations of failings in governance and policy within the US.
Historically we've seen this attempted through revolutions, but now with the advent of relatively easy/inexpensive international migration (by historical standards - not to mention the impossibility of revolutionary war today, but that's a different discussion), migration is a more peaceful alternative.