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Re: My product is my garden

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Post by justusthane »

raunometsa wrote: post #139
justusthane wrote: post #117

This is a little off-topic, but related: I've done hobbyist webdev for a long time, but only HTML/CSS/JS/PHP. I have an idea for a web app I'd like to build--would you folks recommend Rails or Django, and why? I have very little background with either Ruby or Python, so the language choice itself isn't a deciding factor for me (although I have slightly more interest in Python).

You're been working with PHP, why do you want to switch to Rails or Django?

Because it's been a very long since I've even done anything with PHP, and I'd like to play with one of the frameworks. I'm much more interested in learning Python or Ruby than I am in learning PHP.

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by raunometsa »

justusthane wrote: post #141
raunometsa wrote: post #139

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You're been working with PHP, why do you want to switch to Rails or Django?

Because it's been a very long since I've even done anything with PHP, and I'd like to play with one of the frameworks. I'm much more interested in learning Python or Ruby than I am in learning PHP.

Oh, cool – I understand! My first thought was that if you're already familiar with a language like PHP why not use that to build a webapp.

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by yesenadam »

meatmanek wrote: post #136
OJFord wrote: post #41

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Ha, glad I'm not the only one, I went directly to Wiktionary after finishing the article, which doesn't mark it 'chiefly US' or anything, and gives RP IPA. Which contains another surprise, for me anyway - it's not pronounced like the golf club, but starting like 'put' (that over there) or 'foot'.

Apple's Dictionary.app, which for me pulls from the New Oxford American Dictionary, does mention that potter is the British version: > put·ter³ | ˈpədər | (British potter) > verb [no object] North American > occupy oneself in a desultory but pleasant manner, doing a number of small tasks or not concentrating on anything particular: early morning is the best time of the day to putter around in the garden. > • [with ad…

Thanks. Hehe that's amusingly parochial. ("Whole World except USA" they like to call "British", and 'potter' is merely 'another term for putter'. Everything is inside-out.)

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by equality_1138 »

LeonB wrote: post #35
equality_1138 wrote: post #15

Love the garden analogy in software, especially when faced with complex systems that can't easily be managed by rigid IT project management styles. Was reminded of another short piece going way back to 2007: https://signalvnoise.com/posts/591-brainstorm-the-software-g...

You did well to retrieve that one from the memory banks! Must’ve left an impression. I think I read it too.

His book, Rework, is what got me interested in his writings. I guess the short article left a mark mainly because it reflected ideas that I enjoyed from the book

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by yellowapple »

justusthane wrote: post #117

This is a little off-topic, but related: I've done hobbyist webdev for a long time, but only HTML/CSS/JS/PHP. I have an idea for a web app I'd like to build--would you folks recommend Rails or Django, and why? I have very little background with either Ruby or Python, so the language choice itself isn't a deciding factor for me (although I have slightly more interest in Python).

Both are pretty similar to one another, basically filling the same niche, just with different languages. So if you're more interested in Python, then by learning Django you probably won't be missing out on much w/ Rails (and given their similarities, learning one makes it easier to learn the other).

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by rascoro1 »

I love this analogy. I enjoy programming as a hobby and as a result, I like taking my time creating a product that I enjoy using.

My garden is currently 2 open-source projects focused on developer efficiency and ease of use.

dev-utils: A simple publicly facing website (that can be run locally) that can do simple encoding, decoding, hashing, pretty printing, etc. All of these are performed using javascript so data is exfiltrated to third-parties. I found that I was using utilities online and I did not trust them so I decided to make my own. You can find the website here: https://utils.andrewcopeland.dev/

zk: A simple not taking application that is written 100% in bash. It follows the zettelkasten note taking method which implements small notes that can be linked together. All notes are written in markdown files and can be auto-synced to a public or private github. You can find the project here: https://github.com/AndrewCopeland/zettelkasten

I only water these projects when I need to and I have no intent on commercializing them. I water them because I like them not because I want to monetize them.

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by CuriouslyC »

silexia wrote: post #104
telesilla wrote: post #85

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The families I know who live best are permaculturalists. Visiting them for dinner is always a treat. It's hard work though, and like others they have supplemental income. I imagine this old man knows well the trick: an independent life is impossible unless you have enough healthy young people around to do the labour.

I agree it's hard work. Every project seems like it will take an hour at the outset, but ends up taking eight hours due to a wide variety of unexpected real world complications. I traded in a beautiful city home for 106 acres at the beginning of the pandemic and am still glad I did. People have a fantasy picture of the tradeoff though... In reality, in rural places you have less social interaction and the people are…

You can't make money commodity farming unless at scale, but growing boutique items can be profitable. You just need to find things that nobody else is providing, and build a market for them. Vertical integration is also a good way to make money without scaling up - things like pickles and other cottage foods have a much higher profit margin.

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by raintrees »

vageli wrote: post #127
raintrees wrote: post #109

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Or around $600K in down payments in cash flowing rental properties in the US... My wife and I spent around $75K to get approximately $1K a month in cash flow (5 doors, $200 each)...

$75k for five doors? Might I ask whereabouts? That seems ridiculously cheap per unit.

$65K for a 4 plex in Del Norte County, California, $10K for a single family in Lee County, Florida. Deals exist, it requires effort and action.

Re: My product is my garden

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Post by Breza »

singlow wrote: post #129
wombatmobile wrote: post #76

Pangloss, who was as inquisitive as he was argumentative, asked the old man what the name of the strangled Mufti was. ‘I don’t know,’ answered the worthy man, ‘and I have never known the name of any Mufti, nor of any Vizier. I have no idea what you’re talking about; my general view is that people who meddle with politics usually meet a miserable end, and indeed they deserve to. I never bother with what is going on in…

I was reminded of Being There by Jerzy Kosiński: > In a garden, things grow... but first, they must wither; trees have to lose their leaves in order to put forth new leaves, and to grow thicker and stronger and taller. Some trees die, but fresh saplings replace them. Gardens need a lot of care. But if you love your garden, you don’t mind working in it, and waiting. Then in the proper season you will surely see it flo…

Haven't thought of that book in years but it's the perfect thing to cite here. Bravo.
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