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Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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An app that does nothing passed review? I hope this doesn't happen often, and that the processes are reviewed. May be reviewers have too much work to do and just click OK sometimes to move on? Also, I understand that the App store has a million apps, and they can't be super thorough with all of them. What I don't understand is how an app that is actually getting a lot of downloads and reviews, and that charges a huge…

The scammers scammed App Review, it’s not hard to do or understand. What the reviewers saw isn’t what customers see.

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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Well, they can always take their business elsewhere, where the grass is greener. But they came to the App Store because it's a dozens of billions of dollars a year market...

Which "elsewhere" is there for someone developing an Apple Watch keyboard?

Apparently developers can develop more than one kind of app.

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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That sounds suspiciously like a "union rep."

Maybe an "app store developers union" wouldn't be such a terrible idea

Yeah I'm sure Apple would love this idea and wouldn't try to penalize union developers in the least...

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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At that price any copyright lawyer will be happy to deal with the paperwork. You were making 2000/month, so the infringement is taking money away. For a share of that it is easy to register the copyright and then send the proper letters. Probably this will settle out of court where apple pays your lawyer from fund the developer would have got and then removes the app. you get nothing directly from the lawyer except t…

If the infringing App is in a foreign country the scenario is much more complicated than you are suggesting.

It is, but the US and the EU legally recognize each other's copyrights. So he can sue the Chinese company in his country, and when they don't show up send Apple a notice to freeze assets related to the company, which just needs a US lawyer. In the end the lawyers win, but it is a straight forward case (assuming all the facts are as given...)

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

#146

" But I like Apple's walled garden because they verify and quality check everything on there "

And this is just an example of how hard it is to do well, when determined scammers even scam the review process.

If this happens on iOS, what do you think happens on Google play?

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

#147

" But I like Apple's walled garden because they verify and quality check everything on there "

Hits extra close to home when Apple enforces some arbitrary rule for one app (like Amphetamine) and then doesn't even bother to test other apps.

It tests every app, including this one. Think about what really happened here.

Edit: Apparently my downvoters can’t think about what really happened here so I’ll explain it.

In App Review this app worked fine. Oh, the keyboard was likely lame and not useful, but the scam screens were no where to be seen. Then the app is approved and placed on the store. Now the scam screens appear.

It’s trivial to do, is done all the time even by legitimate developers, and incredibly hard for Apple review to detect.

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

#148

" But I like Apple's walled garden because they verify and quality check everything on there "

Now I wonder how come an "unlock app" paywall with that amount of money goes through the Apple review process unquestioned Or for some reason if it's a Chinese app Apple will just not bother?

Or perhaps the app worked entirely differently during review?

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

#149
post #47

It's funny that these scam apps and fake reviews can exist in the app store en masse, while everyone on forums like this one will praise Apple for every heavy-handed decision against legitimate apps (which coincidentally were all in Apple's own interests) because hey the walled garden keeps us safe.

App Review is hard. Apple does a better job at it than Google, so imagine what is happening on the play store.

Re: Apple watch keyboard developer put off by app store scammers

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It’s easy to blame Apple here and to some degree they are responsible for scammers aren’t banned from the App Store. However, why isn’t somebody complaining who got scammed? Don’t they want $400 back? Maybe they do a simple refund and that’s enough for them but there should be some feedback loop to detect scams quickly before they climb the App Store charts.

Haha imagine an Apple user admitting they got scammed for $400 after clicking an "Unlock now" button on their watch because they wanted a keyboard on their watch.
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