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Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Okay so I completely agree but I want to add something to what’s going on Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive. The foundation of the community is that a forum talking about stock investing strategies is, at its heart, really dumb. It’s harder than most people can manage to evaluate all the “DD” flying around and any advice other than playing it safe (r/investing) is stupid to take from a rando on a…

Agreed on WSB culture but.... The "real question," imo is not about how FB, discord or reddit handle WSB's culture. It's why have they all decided to act right now, just as this gamestop maneuver is happening? That is the fishy part... and it's too fishy to leave it unaddressed and talk content. Either way, this just shows why we can't have a handful of companies moderating most of the internet under a TOS regime.

Largely because the "gamestop maneuver" has inflammed an already excitable community and things are likely bubbling over right now in a way that they wouldn't be if people hadn't just bet thousands of dollars on a tulip scam.

And let's not euphemize this, it's not a "maneuver", it's market manipulation. Coordinating a collective buy to effect a short squeeze is clear market manipulation. Enticing a horde of gullible forum users to buy the same ballooned stock based on ideas like "stick it to the man" and "turn their tricks back on them" is an even clearer pump and dump scheme.

This doesn't end well for anyone (except Gamestop's pre-existing shareholders I guess). The hedge fund got fleeced, the gullible WSB users are going to lose a ton, Robinhood flushed their brand down the toilet trying to avoid being an accomplice to all of this, and the only folks who made money on the deal are more likely than not in the SEC crosshairs now.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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> My general sense is that WSB works hard to moderate within its sensibility so it stays enjoyable, but with the big influx, I’d bet Facebook and Discord are either reacting to behavior which is slipping past the WSB mods due to the influxes, This is possible, they are a victim of their own success in a way... or The banks are looking for a way—any way—to shut them down. This is costing millions of dollars. Paying a…

Given the number of new people being the size of a substantial city, the worst of them is statistically guaranteed to be worse than the most horrible professional troll, I would argue.

From the sounds of it, you don't even need to be a professional troll. Just flag every offensive post there is.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

#143
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Just build your own website bro Just build your own host bro Just build your own financial banking system bro just build your own social media platform bro just build your own payment processing platform bro just build your own internet infrastructure bro

Today I saw: Common Folk: We want a chance at financial stability." Rich Folk: "Invest your money." Common Folk: "OK, GME it is." Rich Folk: "Wait. Not like that. Stop. This clearly must be outlawed."

Sometimes people ask, why do rich people keep striving for more money? What is the point of having $1B instead of $100M, or $10B instead of $1B, or $100B instead of $10B?

Sometimes the answer is given, that it's the same impulse as playing a computer game and money is the score.

But the last few days, something else occurred to me, watching the kind of disarray of various billionaire hedge fund types. A big attraction of wealth on that level must be the sense that you're smarter than nearly anyone else.

This situation punctures that and it seems like a lot of quotes in the news are about scrambling to save face and protect peoples' self images. I don't think they are actually outraged over monetary losses as such.

It's interesting that people are comparing it to Occupy Wall Street.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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And when you do those things, they will be shutdown. Bye bye Parlor.

Bro just build your own AWS

Bro. You don’t need AWS. You need a server.

People did this. For decades.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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> The notification, seen by Reuters, said without detail that the group violated policies on “adult sexual exploitation.” That's some bullshit right there. Spin the wheel, come up with a random charge, and ban the entire community with zero recourse and no way to appeal.

When everyone is a criminal, anyone can be arrested. The reddit mods have basically made this charge, in their own special WSB way. It's impossible for moderators to fully control large groups, subs and such. Some bannable comments will always be present, and they are limited by whatever moderation tools they get from reddit. Meanwhile, the idea that discord, reddit (throttled not banned) and FB all simultaneously an…

It's kind of all over the news and getting a lot of attention. Couldn't that easily explain the attention Facebook now gives?

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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And when you do those things, they will be shutdown. Bye bye Parlor.

Bro just build your own AWS

Or, like, don't build on AWS. Last I heard Gab is still up because they run their own servers

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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I don't know much about all this gambling stuff and to be honest I don't care. But what happened and what is happening is, in my opinion, more important than this affair.

It shows where power is, in case we didn't notice yet. And it shows that we should collectively act to regain some of this power, we gave them for free...

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

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Agreed on WSB culture but.... The "real question," imo is not about how FB, discord or reddit handle WSB's culture. It's why have they all decided to act right now, just as this gamestop maneuver is happening? That is the fishy part... and it's too fishy to leave it unaddressed and talk content. Either way, this just shows why we can't have a handful of companies moderating most of the internet under a TOS regime.

Historically, reddit is most likely to move against subreddits when they cause embarrassing news articles.

Make no mistake, Reddit is absolutely loving this. WSB has 3 million new subscribers in the past 2 weeks. The only thing the executives at reddit care about is revenue and hence impressions, which is exactly what they're getting.

Re: Facebook shuts popular stock trading group amid GameStop frenzy

#150
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Okay so I completely agree but I want to add something to what’s going on Half the fun of WSB is that it is enormously offensive. The foundation of the community is that a forum talking about stock investing strategies is, at its heart, really dumb. It’s harder than most people can manage to evaluate all the “DD” flying around and any advice other than playing it safe (r/investing) is stupid to take from a rando on a…

Agreed on WSB culture but.... The "real question," imo is not about how FB, discord or reddit handle WSB's culture. It's why have they all decided to act right now, just as this gamestop maneuver is happening? That is the fishy part... and it's too fishy to leave it unaddressed and talk content. Either way, this just shows why we can't have a handful of companies moderating most of the internet under a TOS regime.

> The "real question," imo is not about how FB, discord or reddit handle WSB's culture. It's why have they all decided to act right now, just as this gamestop maneuver is happening?

Because when you're short a few billion on a position, and your counterparty is a toxic stream of garbage, its a profitable strategy to paying someone to report all the toxic b.s. and disrupt their organization. In 2021, we figured out how to get hedge funds to pay content moderator salaries!

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