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Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by vmception »

cheaprentalyeti wrote: post #95
vmception wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, he failed to produce any keys, the courier with the keys never materialized, the judge has not thrown Craig Wright in jail for contempt of court nor has be been charged with perjury. The judge seems to be mildly entertained by this and views Craig Wright as mentally ill, but won't have him committed. It is all sad and strange. There are a lot of guardrails against using the system this way, but they aren't being…

As near as I can tell they're letting Craig Wright cosplay being Satoshi because it's another useful way of inhibiting Bitcoin's adoption and annoying the real Satoshi, wherever he is out there.

There’s nothing to suggest this one judge is part of any plan. This is just a judge playing “choose your own adventure” with live characters arguing over something he doesn't care about while providing some form of escapism.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by ogogmad »

eecks wrote: post #85
ogogmad wrote: post #18

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BCH eventually got forked into Craig Wright's and Calvin Ayre's "Bitcoin Satoshi's Vision (BSV)", which has a block size in the gigabytes, and which according to them carries the torch for Satoshi's original vision for Bitcoin. Craig Wright is the chief scientist for BSV. I personally think there's sufficient evidence to conclude Craig Wright isn't competent enough to have created BTC: https://craigwright.online/

I don't think he is Satoshi but what evidence is in your comment?

Follow the link.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by chill1 »

eecks wrote: post #83
chill1 wrote: post #71

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> You think a guy smart enough to give birth to Bitcoin, and maintain complete anonymity while doing so and while communicating in public forums etc, would forget his private key? > You just need to remember one seed and suddenly you have billions of dollars of value stored in your brain. I don't think that's a realistic possibility. BIP39 mnemonics ("seeds") were not around in the early days. Bitcoin core software g…

So how could you use these private keys now? Considering they're not seeds. EDIT: downvoted for asking a question

Any one of those individual private keys could be imported into another wallet software application (e.g Electrum). Then the funds can be swept to a newer wallet that has a seed backup.

Private keys are just numbers. That has not changed since the beginning.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by gruez »

MattGaiser wrote: post #127
scarmig wrote: post #122

There is this constant thread of seediness to the point of absurdity running through Bitcoin that makes it look like a joke that everyone is in on except the suckers buying into it. Which makes it hilarious for an observer... though I guess I don't get to laugh all the way to the bank, which is a fitting punchline.

I have to wonder if a lot of this is straight up money laundering. Were there seriously billions of dollars worth of gullible people buying ICOs and every random alt coin a few years ago? On Reddit, there are tons of spammers selling "copy trading" services. Are there actually customers for that?

>I have to wonder if a lot of this is straight up money laundering

Because the best way to clean your dirty money is to sell tokens (which are "totally not securities") and get investigated by the SEC.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by garmaine »

ogogmad wrote: post #140
grubles wrote: post #130

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Gavin admitted he should have been removed because he stopped contributing. Why has HN comment quality fallen so low...

Hi Grubles! Question: How do you think people will use BTC in the future? Do you think people will ever be able to buy coffee with it?

No, because people don’t use highly volatile speculative assets for everyday transactions.

But I know you’re referring to the transaction fees, and it would only be fair to point out that the cost of a lightning transaction is a few cents.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by baby »

lawn wrote: post #13

As for why the Bitcoin Core developers were so quick to do this, the whitepaper has been a thorn in their side for years as it runs counter to the argument of Bitcoin being "digital gold" and should just be a settlement layer. So they saw this as an excuse to remove it.

Source?

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by jandrese »

phkahler wrote: post #116
Nursie wrote: post #8

Isn't this guy literally billions in the hole to the estate of someone he claims was his partner in creating BTC, and who is co-owner of the Satoshi hoard of coins which haven't moved (ever)? Did that court case ever finish or is he still using every trick in the book to draw it out? (Kleiman v. Wright, that's what I'm thinking of) (Looks like it got kicked back to June this year due to covid)

>> the Satoshi hoard of coins which haven't moved (ever) What type of math problem has to be cracked to claim that stash?

Basically you have to crack hard crypto. With key lengths long enough and no mathematical weaknesses discovered in the algorithm it could easily take until the heat death of the universe.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by garmaine »

gaius_baltar wrote: post #105
wildrice wrote: post #2

"Yesterday both Bitcoin.org and Bitcoincore.org received allegations of copyright infringement of the Bitcoin whitepaper by lawyers representing Craig Steven Wright. In this letter, they claim Craig owns the copyright to the paper, the Bitcoin name, and ownership of bitcoin.org. They also claim he is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, and the original owner of bitcoin.org. Bitcoin.org and Bitcoinc…

> In this letter, they claim Craig owns the copyright to the paper, the Bitcoin name, and ownership of bitcoin.org. Isn't that basically asking for a lawsuit in the format of "Prove that you are Satoshi or be charged with perjury" ? Why is CSW still able to play these tricks?

Because the cost of the lawsuit would still be carried by these open source volunteers.

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by dylkil »

grubles wrote: post #130
uncletammy wrote: post #62

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They removed the whitepaper about as fast as they removed Gavin Andresen's commit access once they found justification. There are a lot of bad things you can call the BTC core devs but they sure as hell seize every opportunity to grab power.

Gavin admitted he should have been removed because he stopped contributing. Why has HN comment quality fallen so low...

Peter Todd said it was because he thought he was hacked [1]. Then two days later he posts a blog about wanting to submit a pull request for bigger blocks[2]. Interesting timing.

[1]https://twitter.com/peterktodd/status/727078284345917441

[2]http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks

Re: Bitcoincore.org removes Satoshi's whitepaper from website after threats from CSW

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Post by gruez »

153791098c wrote: post #114
sktrdie wrote: post #44

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Indeed. I think Craig is a fraud. I'm just dumbfounded why Gavin --a person I admire from intial days and who is probably person n.2 after satoshi in terms of bitcoin actual initial lines of code written -- was so easily fooled.

He probably wasn't fooled, or actually, he got screwed by both sides. He knew CSW wasn't satoshi, also he knew adam back was satoshi but couldn't tell anyone because of the NDA he signed (adam had long been compromised at that point). I think he felt the only way to save the project was to point to someone else being satoshi that did believe in the original bitcoin = p2p cash narrative, but that obviously backfired.…

>also he knew adam back was satoshi but couldn't tell anyone because of the NDA he signed (adam had long been compromised at that point).

uhh what?

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