Individuals leaving is pointless, it needs to be a mass exodus.
I'd love to see write ups on ways to make competing products and have a shot at taking customers from big tech.
How to leave Google and why
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Re: How to leave Google and why
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
It might work for some of those: Maps - They massively hiked API prices a couple years ago, literally by orders of magnitude (a kind of breaking change?). They've also broken a bunch of user-facing features and made it slower; it seems a common complaint here that maps now is a worse product than it was 5 years ago. Search - They seem to have gone all-in on AI, and I've seen a lot of people complaining here that it's…
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Precise+queries+also+no+l... Maybe you meant something different?
Not the person you replied to, but I have also noticed that sometimes it doesn't work and still give the usual SEO bullshit results. I don't remember exactly what I was searching unfortunately.
Re: How to leave Google and why
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
What do you need in a calendar service that you can't find elsewhere? I use the Calendar app with NextCloud[0] for a CalDAV server + calendar web interface. It's fully-featured as far as I can tell. I use its CalDAV functionality to sync to my Android phone using DAVx^5[1], which integrates the calendars natively so that you can use whatever calendar app you want on your phone (I use Etar[2]). [0] https://apps.nextcl…
Okay! What if I can't run my own nextcloud server? I need a consumer solution - a non technical way of making things work.
Ah, gotcha. There are hosted Nextcloud solutions out there if you can't run your own instance. I've never used them and can't speak to how non-technical the overall process is (I'd guess it varies by provider).
Nextcloud's website does have a page on getting ("free"?) accounts from providers. It took me a hot second to find the "change provider" link, but that allows you to see a bunch of options.
Re: How to leave Google and why
#144> Some people say "I have nothing to hide, I don't care" which is essentialy [sic] ignoring basic human right and making this right worthless to you and very precious to others. As ever, this isn't to do with rights. The government isn't forcing you to do this. Neither is Google.
Human rights as a concept exist outside of the US Constitution. Just because something isn't illegal (in the US) doesn't mean it's not morally wrong or something you should not encourage.
Morals and things worth encouraging are not the same as rights in any country (you mentioned the US for some reason, but could be any).
Re: How to leave Google and why
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Human rights as a concept exist outside of the US Constitution. Just because something isn't illegal (in the US) doesn't mean it's not morally wrong or something you should not encourage.
Morals and things worth encouraging are not the same as rights in any country (you mentioned the US for some reason, but could be any).
Human rights exist regardless of the laws of any country. I said US because "the Bill of Rights only constrain government actions" (which is what GP was saying with slightly different phrasing) is a very common talking point from American libertarians. I said "morals and things worth encouraging" to avoid using obvious examples of human rights (to avoid side-tracking the conversation) but okay here are some examples:
Slavery is an obvious and unquestionable violation of a person's human rights -- and that is a true statement regardless of the fact it was not illegal in many countries until the late-1800s (it was a violation of their human rights at the time as well). Same goes for the right to vote -- or if you prefer the right to self-governance -- which was not given to women and minorities until the mid-to-late 1900s. The fact that laws did not grant these people their rights doesn't mean their rights did not exist.
In addition it should be obvious that rights can be taken away by someone who is not an agent of a government. If you enslave someone it is a violation of their human rights regardless of whether it was sanctioned by a government. So (hopefully this was already self-evident) human rights also exist outside of government action.
That was the point I was making.
Re: How to leave Google and why
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https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Precise+queries+also+no+l... Maybe you meant something different?
Not the person you replied to, but I have also noticed that sometimes it doesn't work and still give the usual SEO bullshit results. I don't remember exactly what I was searching unfortunately.
If you see this (a quoted precise query that doesn't search as precise, without a disclaimer at the top), can you send me the query? I'd like to look into it if it's not just returning zero results and falling back to a non-precise query.