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New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by square_usual »

Siyo wrote: post #89
square_usual wrote: post #38

I know it's from Kuo, but these leaks don't pass the smell test for me. It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. It makes even less sense to add more ports which aren't USB-C, as the bits about MagSafe and no dongles imply. Further, I don't understand what is meant by "iPhone 12 like" non-curvy design - I have a 2018 MBP 15", and the s…

> It makes no sense for them to add the touchbar to the base model 13" MBPs only to remove them from the higher end versions. Well keep in mind that the first generation Arm MacBooks are basically the same old Intel laptops with their guts replaced. The next generation is probably going to be a completely new design.

But there were old gen Intel 13" MBPs without the touch bar. They added those into the M1 macs that replaced those old models. Clearly, they could simply have... not, if they were indeed thinking of removing the touchbar entirely.

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Post by nikau »

mih wrote: post #119
odiroot wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always thought Macbook touchpad is too damn big and awkward to use. But here, it seems, people are in love with it.

I hear you. I have the same thoughts. Touchpads on most laptops have sufficed for my use. People swear by the touchpad on Macbooks, but to me it never really was that big of an improvement. My bias could be due to the fact that I don't use the touchpad exclusively and always attach a mouse when I can.

Its a hangover for 10 years ago when low end laptop touchpads were pretty bad.

I find my carbon X1 touchpad nicer to use than my 15" macpro.

Although I am impressed how well they made the haptic tap feel like a real button on the mac.

Re: New MacBook Pro models to feature magsafe, no touch bar and more ports: analyst

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Post by oblio »

skocznymroczny wrote: post #109
adrr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will probably be physical keys with screens in them. As seen in this patent. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... Mag safe is going to be on the charging cable and not the computer. Like on old game consoles with wired controllers.

The main issue of this is just like with touchbar and similar solutions - power users don't look at the keyboard, so the usefulness will be minimal.

They would be physical buttons, I don't understand your comment.

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Post by godzillabrennus »

fingerlocks wrote: post #120
twelve40 wrote: post #84

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yes, but also the damn trackpad. I feel like i'm getting carpal tunnel just trying to avoid swiping the damn thing with my palm it's so freaking huge. Been 3+ years still feels like it's designed specifically to get in the way of my work.

Odd, I rest my palm on mine all the time without issue. I believe it has palm detection and is smart enough to ignore the larger surface area of your hand.

Smaller trackpad models could ignore my palms. The latest generation not so much. I’m on a 16” MacBook Pro.

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Post by kvakva »

oehtXRwMkIs wrote: post #3

It'll be interesting to see how this will work with USB-C unless they're being very courageous.

I really hope they keep USB-C charging. It's my favourite thing because allows me use to use one cable with external monitors and be able to charge my laptop from both sides.

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Post by ChrisRR »

twelve40 wrote: post #84
switz wrote: post #66

If anyone from Apple is reading, let me just say – this is exactly what I want. Magsafe charging. Function keys instead of the touchbar. 15-16" screen. M1 CPU. 32GB Memory. I also prefer the 2015 keyboard, but it's not a dealbreaker. I'll pay for the kickstarter now if it means it'll come out in the next 18 months. Please make it happen.

yes, but also the damn trackpad. I feel like i'm getting carpal tunnel just trying to avoid swiping the damn thing with my palm it's so freaking huge. Been 3+ years still feels like it's designed specifically to get in the way of my work.

Apple doesn't want to sell you a laptop, they want to sell you an oversized ipad with a keyboard. Unfortunately the giant trackpad is here to stay

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Post by fy20 »

bartvk wrote: post #68
adrr wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It will probably be physical keys with screens in them. As seen in this patent. https://www.macrumors.com/2020/12/29/apple-researching-keybo... Mag safe is going to be on the charging cable and not the computer. Like on old game consoles with wired controllers.

I have the feeling that it's not going to be on the charging cable. Benson Leung often comments that extensions and modifications to USB-C cables are not compliant with the USB-C standard, which Apple helped write. What I could imagine though, is if the charger itself incorporates MagSafe.

I use these magnetic USB-C adpaters on my phone, it works fine for charging and data transfer:

https://a.aliexpress.com/_BSorDx

I haven't tried more extensive tests (e.g. video out) but I don't see any real reason why Apple couldn't make a more official (i.e. USB-C certified) version. As the sister comment says, if it's for power only then it is simpler.

I'd imagine rather than adapters like this, you would plug in a cable that has a magnetic joint somewhere near the end that can 'break' if pulled.

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Post by TheSpiceIsLife »

nottorp wrote: post #130
philjohn wrote: post #87

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I was under the impression that the "no connectors/extensions" wasn't so much around power delivery, but around the high data rates (40 Gbps) and signal integrity. A charger cable, that only does PD, could have a magnetic break in it without issues.

I run my usb-c macbook pro with a 3rd party magnetic charge only usb-c cable without issues so yes, it's already been done. However, as opposed to magsafe there's a tiny dongle that stays in the usb-c port. Also, the magnet is weaker than in the old apple magsafes.

In my opinion, MagSafe 2 set the gold standard in weak magnets.

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Post by oblio »

HHalvi wrote: post #50

Add bringing back SD Card Reader, HDMI and changing the Webcam it seems like the best MBP wishlist ever.

They're never going to add those ports back in. USB-C is as the name says, universal, and they're trying to get rid of even that.

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Post by nikau »

justinko wrote: post #79
slowmotiony wrote: post #30

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Jony Ive is gone is my guess

What a taint to his legacy. Not a good way to go out.

Perhaps his legacy isn't so great

My macbook has terrible sharp edges that dig into your wrist, the usb-c ports are so close together I cant put 2 plugs in as they hit each other, one of the keys is faulty because its a butterfly model, it has wizz bang touch bar but no physical mic mute button, a few key caps have worn off as they are laser etched rather than double shot, the giant touchpad sometimes zooms while typing at random if my palms hit it in some combination it assumes is a zoom gesture.

Overall his designs are great for the showroom but suck for usability.

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