Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is just too generic a complaint.
When you have no arguments, divert.
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
He instructed them to cheer on the delegates, and not be too nice to Pence.
But he also filled them with grievances and told them they had to fight. His words stop just short of directly ordering what happened, but you'd have to be an idiot not to see it coming. His tweets during the event also made it clear he was perfectly happy with what was going on.
It was an hour long talk with falsehoods and telling people to go to Congress and act with the people there. The demo plans were known in the community and his lawyers and family chimed in.
Intent and collusion is clear. There were words used to supposedly disarm all the other vitriol, which is for a court to decide.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is just too generic a complaint.
When you have no arguments, divert.
With whataboutism, everything is OK then, as you can always find something worse to confirm your bias.
Besides, I find it disingenious to equate lies about election fraud without evidence leading to riot and assault on core democratic process, and people fighting/defending the right not to be assaulted and killed by armed police. But that argument is besides the point of this issue.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
But he also filled them with grievances and told them they had to fight. His words stop just short of directly ordering what happened, but you'd have to be an idiot not to see it coming. His tweets during the event also made it clear he was perfectly happy with what was going on.
It was an hour long talk with falsehoods and telling people to go to Congress and act with the people there. The demo plans were known in the community and his lawyers and family chimed in. Intent and collusion is clear. There were words used to supposedly disarm all the other vitriol, which is for a court to decide.
I think we're in "violent" agreement :)
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
University antics operate in their own bubble. A fraction want abolition, but they'd also plainly say so. "Defund" by definition doesn't mean abolish.
It does unless you expect them to work for free and pay for their own operations somehow.
The demands have been made abundantly clear: they want demilitarization, and other health-focused services to take over in areas where police response is overkill and inappropriate. That's literally it. This isn't hard to find.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
When you have no arguments, divert.
With whataboutism, everything is OK then, as you can always find something worse to confirm your bias. Besides, I find it disingenious to equate lies about election fraud without evidence leading to riot and assault on core democratic process, and people fighting/defending the right not to be assaulted and killed by armed police. But that argument is besides the point of this issue.
You are confused; I didn't give Trumpistas a pass, I accused the other side of having double standards. Ergo, not whataboutism.
You are well within your right BTW to find the comparison disingenious. I find it too. However, I'm not interested in giving one group of people power to do whatever they want without legal repercussions and enforce it on another group of people. Should the law not be equal to all?
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Oh you must mean [the one holding the onion in her towel?]( https://youtu.be/vcaJFGQHdnA )
As someone else commented, this is apparently a known mitigation for diy tear gas/pepper spray relief.
Yup. Here's an interesting article listing a bunch of things that assorted groups have used for this [1].
It's not clear that you should bring such a mitigation with you, though, as that might help make the case that what you were doing that got you gassed was premeditated, which can up the seriousness of what you might be charged with and the potential penalties.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
With whataboutism, everything is OK then, as you can always find something worse to confirm your bias. Besides, I find it disingenious to equate lies about election fraud without evidence leading to riot and assault on core democratic process, and people fighting/defending the right not to be assaulted and killed by armed police. But that argument is besides the point of this issue.
You are confused; I didn't give Trumpistas a pass, I accused the other side of having double standards. Ergo, not whataboutism. You are well within your right BTW to find the comparison disingenious. I find it too. However, I'm not interested in giving one group of people power to do whatever they want without legal repercussions and enforce it on another group of people. Should the law not be equal to all?
It's all different people, groups and situations, but I acknowledge your point.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
You are confused; I didn't give Trumpistas a pass, I accused the other side of having double standards. Ergo, not whataboutism. You are well within your right BTW to find the comparison disingenious. I find it too. However, I'm not interested in giving one group of people power to do whatever they want without legal repercussions and enforce it on another group of people. Should the law not be equal to all?
It's all different people, groups and situations, but I acknowledge your point.
Thank you for ending this exchange on a positive note.
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#150The one that's really wanted is this guy.[1] This is someone in the Senate chamber with zip-ties. This is not the retired USAF officer who was arrested with zip-ties.[2] The person in [1] is thinner, in good shape, and wearing completely different tactical gear, along with a Punisher logo on an American flag. [1] https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/protesters-enter-the-se... [2] https://images.foxtv.com/static.fox5d…
Arrested.[1]
[1] https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/2021/01/10/nashv...