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Re: Tibor Gánti's ideas about the origins of life

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Post by dudeman13 » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 3:47 PM UTC

tjchear wrote: post #26

dudeman13 wrote: post #9

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>I don't think so [...] and therefore I reject it outright That's not a problem. There can be insane theological and ethical consequences for everyone else.

I don't think there will be any consequences of importance, for a different, simple reason: people generally resist changing their worldview and will do mental gymnastics to preserve it.

That's an argument I think is valid for a possible lack of consequences of importance.

Unlike thinking there won't be consequences of importance because of a belief that < 1% of humanity even thought of maybe possibly having

Re: Tibor Gánti's ideas about the origins of life

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Post by dudeman13 » Thu, Dec 24, 2020, 3:58 PM UTC

gdy wrote: post #139

posterboy wrote: post #68

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Along with gender, being human is a socially defined concept. It might even be defined by social criteria, quite literally. Yet, Homo economicos is not the only social animal and not the only one with a social conscious either. Actually, I think you want to talk about humanity as a whole, as an organism to draw a clear distinction, because the level of controlled organization is unparalleled. In that sense I can agre…

"Along with gender, being human is a socially defined concept" This is priceless))

As much as I agree with the general spirit of your reply, I think there is some merit to think of posterboy.human() being a socially defined concept.

It's recently became a loaded term (much like gender) due to people in general using the term like that. See expressions like "humane" or "transhuman".

I would prefer if they used some other word instead of overloading the method, but oh well.

Re: Tibor Gánti's ideas about the origins of life

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Post by gdy » Sat, Jan 02, 2021, 11:39 PM UTC

dudeman13 wrote: post #142

gdy wrote: post #139

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"Along with gender, being human is a socially defined concept" This is priceless))

As much as I agree with the general spirit of your reply, I think there is some merit to think of posterboy.human() being a socially defined concept. It's recently became a loaded term (much like gender) due to people in general using the term like that. See expressions like "humane" or "transhuman". I would prefer if they used some other word instead of overloading the method, but oh well.

Maybe by 'human' they just meant 'sapient'?