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New UK police speed gun can read license plates from half a mile away at night

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There are some newer cars with AEB that have pedestrian detection, though. You can watch videos of IIHS testing those features [0]. It's not a perfect solution but will automatically brake if a collision with a pedestrian (or other VRU) is predicted and the driver is not braking. [0] https://youtu.be/TJgUiZgX5rE?t=109

That usually doesn’t kick in at higher speeds, due to the risk of it suddenly breaking on a motorway. In a way, this makes speeding even worse.

Volvo has developed "large animal" sensors that are designed to avoid collisions with moose at highway speeds. I have no idea how well they actually work in practice however.

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It’s strange to see you advocate for 35mph. In many parts of Southern England I saw 20mph become the norm. It makes a lot of sense in terms of road safety as well as noise, and makes little to no difference to journey times.

20/35 is 4/7 the speed, and therefore it makes every trip take 7/4 as long. So you spend an additional 15 minutes on every 20-minute journey. You're rapidly going to waste more human lifetimes sitting in cars than you would ever save from driving slower.

Correct, assuming a perfectly spherical car on a frictionless road with no other traffic, hazards, or traffic controls.

In the real world 20mph puts a cap on your top speed only in the few instances you could possibly go that fast. Factor in lights, queueing at rotaries, slowing for emerging traffic, slowing for and then going around cyclists... ad nauseam

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Speed limiters and cruise control are pretty common in modern cars. You can set your mental intended speed lower and won't drift as much. This is from experience of switching to a car with speed notification beeper (very low tech) - it took maybe 2 weeks to stop drifting over almost completely without paying extra attention. We ended up treating it as a game with gf - shortest time for a 300km drive with no beeps.

You set your cruise control when driving on city streets? Sure, I use it on the freeway, but only on long drives. I've never seen anyone use it in the city.

Adaptive CC - yes, pretty much all the time. I understand it would be super annoying to use basic CC in the city. But that's where you can set the limiter instead (they often come together with CC).

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I'm curious about the context of the $13,000 price tag. Is this a slight upcharge? Or an order of magnitude? I'm what the Brits might call a "keen motorist", but as someone who considers speed enforcement a necessary evil, there's a world of difference between paying a bit more for much better tech, versus way more. If this costs 4x what a normal radar gun costs, one must ask "what is the problem we're solving", and…

They will make it back in fines. Unfortunately some Police in some areas seem addicted to the revenue. Its a drop in the ocean.

Re: New UK police speed gun can read license plates from half a mile away at night

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20/35 is 4/7 the speed, and therefore it makes every trip take 7/4 as long. So you spend an additional 15 minutes on every 20-minute journey. You're rapidly going to waste more human lifetimes sitting in cars than you would ever save from driving slower.

Much of the time on a typical London car journey is spent idling in traffic, so it’s not so easy to calculate.

It is measured though! City hall & TRL track this. In outer London the average traffic speed overall is about 20mph. In inner London it’s about 12 and 8 in the centre. I don’t think the 20mph limit makes a real difference to journey times, but it does make the streets safer especially for people not in cars.

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> To the inevitable dismay of U.K. street racers who > primarily partake in their favorite illegal motorsport > after hours, the TruCam II also features night mode > whereas the first TruCam, which has already reportedly > been in use for the past six years, only worked during the > daytime. I think this really comes down to the letter of the law vs the spirit of it. To the spirit of the law, i.e. saving third-party…

Street racers don't go down a 30 mph road at 35 mph.

They go down that road at 70 mph. They also tend to be very young and incredibly stupid, and incredibly poor at judging risk.

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James May must be really happy now. This means the "rozzers" have solved all the existing crimes and are now focusing on petty things like this. James must have gotten his telly back too!

A reference to a 2 minute conversation from an episode of top gear from 10 years ago, beautiful work.

Its a fair point though. They couldn’t even be bothered to look into my Dads stolen boat engine because it was only worth £10,000 - even though he had a pretty good lead about the organized outfit that did it.

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In the US, you are responsible for your own medical bills and ambulance costs if you are in an accident that wasn't someone else's fault.

And I’m sure all the people I see racing are insured or have the $100k+ a serious accident, injury or property damage entails.

Generally, yes, you have to be insured to register a car.

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In the US, you are responsible for your own medical bills and ambulance costs if you are in an accident that wasn't someone else's fault.

No you aren't. EMTALA, the Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act of 1986 specifically says everyone will be treated regardless of any ability to pay. If someone doesn't have the ability to pay, guess who ends up paying? Everyone else.

Not having the ability to pay doesn't mean you aren't responsible. If you do have the ability to pay, and you are required to have insurance that gives you that ability to pay, then you are responsible.

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My state in Australia have heavy, heavy fines, even compared to the rest of Aus. It doesn't reduce the amount of poor driving but speeding at least is unambiguous. There is no grey area. If the speed limit is 60kmph then you will get booked for exceeding it by 5kmph, and the only reason you get that 5kmph leeway is to account for camera calibration and some grace for speedometer calibration. They would ping you at 61…

In Victoria they’ll ping you for going 62 km/h in a 60 zone.

Are you sure? I got a ticket in Victoria 2 years ago from an standalone camera and it explicitly included a few % grace. The sample image includes it too: https://online.fines.vic.gov.au/Assets/Images/refNo-mail.jpg

> "The alleged speed is lower than the detected speed to allow for tolerance in detection equipment"

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