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Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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We know electric drive trains are smaller and have more torque and allow very different architectures. But thinking about powered accessories I can see even more potential as placing an additional motor is way less material intensive than transmitting mechanical power.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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> I was on the Google homepage today on my iPhone and was getting popups advertising Chrome (on the homepage!) and then again in the search results advertising the Google app. I changed my default to DDG right then and there. I just switched my search engine from DDG to StartPage because I was on a DDG results page and there was a pop-up advertising their app. Why does a search engine need a phone app? Seriously!

It’s a privacy focused browser. Considering all iOS browsers use the same rendering engine and most people are on DDG for privacy reasons, it might be worth considering. Honestly, if you’re concerned about being tracked then you should ignore adds directly related to the webpage your on. Advertising yoga mats on a yoga website don’t take insight into you. Advertising yoga mats on a personal finance site after you vis…

Aside from using an ad blocker another thing I do to combat that is not re-using browser sessions. If I'm visiting a yoga website, I'll quit the browser and relaunch before I visit the personal finance website (especially then). My browser is configured to clear all history and site data when I quit, so I start with a clean blank slate. I quit/relaunch my browser dozens of times a day.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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>t'll be difficult to convince them to shift to electric ones that costs more This electric tractor markets itself as having twice the torque of an ICE tractor of a similar size. This means you don't need a bigger more expensive tractor. >If anything, battery powered cars lose a lot of value as their battery capacities tend to decline over time. EVs lose in value because of government subsidies. The list price is $30…

I can understand why I got downvoted. I might have come across as an EV hater. I'm not one. I do appreciate the technology and acknowledge that it's the future. I was pointing out some of the flaws. I don't argue against the torque figures and everyone knows that EVs have more torque. Even the base model Teslas are faster off the line compared to some of the ICE super cars. I'm hopeful that we generate electricity fr…

I downvoted you because you are stating things as a fact that are not true, and have not been true for several years.

Modern EV batteries don't loose much of their capacity over time. You probably have your information from old Leafs.

Most people that actually drive EVs I've heard from do not have problems with long charging times. In fact, it only takes a couple of seconds to do most charges (the time it takes to plug it in in your garage). When they are travelling, it does take longer, but for most people it just means a slightly longer coffee break.

Coal is on its way out, and even with coal on the grid, it doesn't actually defeat the purpose, as it is still more efficient than small fossil engines not running at their optimal revs. And it is on its way out!

Hydrogen for cars is not going to happen, outside a few compliance cars. And you'll probably be surprised to learn that you can't fill up a hydrogen car as fast as a gas car.

The main problems holding EV cars back right now are lack of production capacity and upfront cost.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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It’s a privacy focused browser. Considering all iOS browsers use the same rendering engine and most people are on DDG for privacy reasons, it might be worth considering. Honestly, if you’re concerned about being tracked then you should ignore adds directly related to the webpage your on. Advertising yoga mats on a yoga website don’t take insight into you. Advertising yoga mats on a personal finance site after you vis…

Aside from using an ad blocker another thing I do to combat that is not re-using browser sessions. If I'm visiting a yoga website, I'll quit the browser and relaunch before I visit the personal finance website (especially then). My browser is configured to clear all history and site data when I quit, so I start with a clean blank slate. I quit/relaunch my browser dozens of times a day.

That’s both inefficient and ineffective vs browser fingerprinting, so you might want to just use a privacy focused browser behind a VPN to hide your IP address.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Once John Deere starting DRM’ing their tractors it just screams entrenched monopoly. But where’s the barrier to entry? AI is going to dramatically alter this competitive landscape and John Deere’s DRM is not going to to stop it. Honestly, I love watching these companies drive nails into their own coffins. I was on the Google homepage today on my iPhone and was getting popups advertising Chrome (on the homepage!) and…

Are Mahindra tractors sold in the US? I'm sure they'd have the money to compete with JD. Mahindra is the worlds most popular tractor and any man and his dog can service them.

Yes they are. I was told by a dealer that they are iterations of the old International Harvester tractors.

They look solid, like cast iron old style tractors.

Also they are relatively inexpensive compared to like John Deere.

All that being said comparing them to big John Deere tractors is like comparing a golf cart to pickup truck. They don't make the massive sized ones that are responsible for the bulk of production field activity.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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I can understand why I got downvoted. I might have come across as an EV hater. I'm not one. I do appreciate the technology and acknowledge that it's the future. I was pointing out some of the flaws. I don't argue against the torque figures and everyone knows that EVs have more torque. Even the base model Teslas are faster off the line compared to some of the ICE super cars. I'm hopeful that we generate electricity fr…

I downvoted you because you are stating things as a fact that are not true, and have not been true for several years. Modern EV batteries don't loose much of their capacity over time. You probably have your information from old Leafs. Most people that actually drive EVs I've heard from do not have problems with long charging times. In fact, it only takes a couple of seconds to do most charges (the time it takes to pl…

I don't mind if you downvote my comment. That's perfectly acceptable if you don't like my opinion. I respect that. No harm done there. :) It's true that everything I know about EVs are from personal experience of people I know. Believe it or not I'm happy that coal is on its way out. I wish it happened sooner.

My sister owned a Tesla model 3 in California for 3 years. She had a lot of fun in it and used it as a daily commute. You're right that in most cases a regular person won't have any problems. They had problems with long waiting times at superchargers at charging stations during long weekends and public holidays. Once they literally had to wait for hours just to get a chance to charge it. She did lose some battery capacity and sold it.

Hydrogen takes 4 to 5 minutes to fill up as opposed to 30 to 40 minutes for EV with supercharging. There is no comparison there. Also using a fast charger all the times can damage batteries. I'm not saying Hydrogen cars are practical now. They could be in future. I hope it is.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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> a lot of farms are away from electricity sources to charge In the US? Not true. The vast majority of US farms have power for one simple reason, they irrigate. It'd be far too expensive to irrigate using a gas pump. The exception MIGHT be dry farms, but those aren't as common as you might think. Further, most farms have shops for repairs which almost always have power for lights (and heat sometimes). > And what to d…

Farms might have 3 phase? With welders and machine tools being necessary for mantainence.

Around Saskatchewan at least, a lot of farms only have a single phase provided by a single wire (!). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-wire_earth_return That gets converted by a pole transformer into the normal split-phase residential setup.

I just looked on Google Earth and measured it out; we're only about 1.1 miles from a 3-phase line, so it would be feasible, but likely pretty expensive, to get that run to us.

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This thing isn't meant to pull your 8-bottom plow attachment. It isn't the tractor a large-scale wheat or corn farmer is going to use to work the fields. Those tractors generate hundreds of horsepower and cost $250k. But there is plenty of market for a small utility tractor, and the people using those aren't all hobby farmers. You don't use your massive 500 hp John Deere 9630 to stack hay bales or cultivate your row…

Autonomy is the game changer here. For $250K you can buy 5 of these little tractors and draw 5 12ft cultivators rather than a single 60 footer. Drive one manually to mark the headland and let the other 4 fill it in.

Joking around a little bit, but I'm kind of curious if the autonomy function would let me summon it when I get my truck stuck. Way nicer than having to walk a few miles to go get the tractor...

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I downvoted you because you are stating things as a fact that are not true, and have not been true for several years. Modern EV batteries don't loose much of their capacity over time. You probably have your information from old Leafs. Most people that actually drive EVs I've heard from do not have problems with long charging times. In fact, it only takes a couple of seconds to do most charges (the time it takes to pl…

I don't mind if you downvote my comment. That's perfectly acceptable if you don't like my opinion. I respect that. No harm done there. :) It's true that everything I know about EVs are from personal experience of people I know. Believe it or not I'm happy that coal is on its way out. I wish it happened sooner. My sister owned a Tesla model 3 in California for 3 years. She had a lot of fun in it and used it as a daily…

> using a fast charger all the times can damage batteries. Is this actually true?

A Google search suggests that there are lots of studies showing that 25 fast charging cycles wrecks the battery but I have driven my Model S from Norway to the UK and back three times which is about 12 k km altogether and I used Tesla chargers exclusively on the journey. The practical range is about 300 km so I must have charged much more than 40 times in addition to all the times I have charged on journeys from Oslo to Trondheim and back. I haven't noticed any significant degradation in range.

But who actually does it on ordinary days when not doing a road trip? I have had that 2015 Model S for three years and I only use the Superchargers when I know that I will travel more than a couple of hundred kilometre in a day; otherwise I can keep the car charged at home (usually just to 80% unless I plan a long trip and I usually charge again before I get to 20%. Plugging in to an ordinary domestic socket every couple of days is enough and takes seconds.

Re: Electric Monarch tractor can plow a field without a driver and run for ten hours

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Barrier to entry in Ag is the dealerships. Deere has the best US dealership network for heavy equipment outside of CAT. It is Ok if your Tesla is in the shop for a few weeks getting fixed, but for Ag equipment, even a few hours at the wrong time is super painful. Deere has parts for 20yr old equipment and their own freight trucks, don't overlook this advantage.

Its definitely a factor, most people I know out here who bale run multiple tractors so they can handle one or two in the shop if it's during a critical time. We've got a Kubota CUT, when rats chewed out the writing harness we were 4 weeks before we had it up and running even with insurance + dealership. Personally I'd love to see someone come in and clean house. Weight and torque are the two things you want in a trac…

CUT and SCUT in this context mean compact utility tractor and subcompact utility tractor. This article [0] has pictures and discusses differences between the two.

[0] https://www.tractor.com/features/scut-vs-cut-1722/

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