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Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by sharker8 »

mrits wrote: post #138
abernard1 wrote: post #55

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I laughed at this because I thought the same thing. Conspiratorial or no, that line of argument won't fly. Saying everything is so integrated that it can't possibly be decentralized is basically proof of monopoly.

I think the arguments will be - FTC Approved these as as legitimate acquisitions - Facebook has direct competitors that can overtake them in just a few years - Instagram was made by a few python coders in months. This shows how easy it is to make a product that competes with Facebook

Parts of IG in the early days involved filters on iOS, which at the time there was no library for. My understanding. The web version was Django, yes.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by disgruntledphd2 »

Frost1x wrote: post #77
rounakdatta wrote: post #50

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Who uses Instagram DMing btw?

I find it funny how every single service builds out a community infrastructure, complete with messaging for near-synchronous and more async communication. I've always been a fan of distributed resiliency but when it comes to basic communications, I don't have the time or motivation to hunt down the service and method of communication within that service some person chooses to use. I much prefer ubiquitous communicati…

Every social network application expands until it has the features of Facebook, or is replaced by ones which can.

Re: Facebook Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp Outage

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Post by mantap »

bvcvbuiy wrote: post #31
mantap wrote: post #24

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A lot more than with SMS. You can send someone an SMS but they are not going to respond because either they cost money or they have some tiny allowance of them.

Where I live mobile plans include unlimited SMS. Also I have a dumbphone and I am the only person my friend send SMS too. That makes me quite a unique person !

The point is that the penetration of WhatsApp is way higher than the penetration of unlimited SMS plans. So whatsapp has broader reach.

SMS only works if you live in a region where unlimited SMS plans are standard AND you don't have any friends outside of that region OR WhatsApp doesn't have market share there. Basically only US.

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Post by anonymou2 »

JMTQp8lwXL wrote: post #128
driverdan wrote: post #126

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This has nothing to do with solar flares or cycles.

Root Cause Analysis has determined that solar flares, which come from the Sun, are the reason any life exists on Earth. Without the sun, no technical evolution would have occurred and no outage in Facebook's infrastructure would have happened.

wow... Haven't you heard about the Big Bang?

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Post by AlwaysRock »

adamcstephens wrote: post #64
m-p-3 wrote: post #49

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It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(

Signal needs to up its game. The experience is very far from being as polished as Telegram.

Yup. I used Signal for several years but moved away from it. It just was not a great product.

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Post by fullstop »

deepstack wrote: post #132
fullstop wrote: post #110

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Right, I understand. It's still encrypted, though, just not in a way that you like.

IMHO, it is NOT encrypted, unless the service provider (also can't read your message). A promise from a Russian based company (the Facebook of Russia) doesn't put any assurances for me.

We can't just assign new definitions to encryption. It's encrypted in such a way that a person watching the wire can't see the contents of the message. If you don't want the message on the server, use a secret e2e chat. They are very up front and clear on this matter.

For the vast majority of my messages, I'm fine with them living on their servers. If I need to send credentials to my family, I can use an e2e channel. For me, it's a step up from hangouts and definitely better than whatsapp or facebook messenger.

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Post by mkl95 »

flak48 wrote: post #137
mkl95 wrote: post #65

Whatsapp is extremely dominant in my country, but I keep encouraging friends and acquaintances to install Telegram. As far as I know, there won't be anything preventing FB from geoblocking European users when the company eventually gets in some serious trouble, like it just did in the US.

When did FB geoblock users in the US?

Sorry if my wording was unclear. The US part only referred to getting in trouble.

If you wonder why I think they may geoblock European users, it's mostly because that's how many American companies are dealing with GDPR (especially retail businesses, but also major media outlets).

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Post by Jiocus »

deepstack wrote: post #132
fullstop wrote: post #110

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Right, I understand. It's still encrypted, though, just not in a way that you like.

IMHO, it is NOT encrypted, unless the service provider (also can't read your message). A promise from a Russian based company (the Facebook of Russia) doesn't put any assurances for me.

Telegram is not affiliated with VK, neither is Telegram based in Russia 🇷🇺

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Post by schmorptron »

l1ghthouse wrote: post #75
m-p-3 wrote: post #49

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It makes me sad those aren't new Signal users :(

I know Telegram is less secure and Secret Chats are an opt-in. Security-wise Signal would be better... but: Signal experience isn't that good. Alien from the platform they run on. For example, no system recommendations to send this person a message or share something with them through signal.. Telegram is more a platform native and integrated into the system. Also there is the issue of messages arriving late (not min…

On android, I see signal right next to all of the other messaging apps when sharing a photo or some other type of supported file.
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