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Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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A similarly-sized window works fine for me in Safari and Chrome on macOS.

Weirdly I'm observing the same behaviour as parent in Safari in macOS, and it really is baffling as the basic google.com website used to be pretty well & sensibly optimised.

Alright, I just tried the exact same search query and there is something wrong with the responsiveness of the knowledge panel thing on the right side.

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yes - it has bad UX and it's broken in Firefox

I don't if this true but I have realized whenever I try to access google apps in firefox they are slow and sometimes breakdown but when I try to do it in chrome they just work fine. Like I was trying to submit some work using google classroom on firefox it wasn't letting me upload the work but when I did it in chrome it just worked well

The consequence of this is not that I think Firefox is bad, by the way. It's that I think Google are a bunch of idiots.

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I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…

They are optimising for something other than performance. E.g. ease of maintenance, or ease of scaling

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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I don't if this true but I have realized whenever I try to access google apps in firefox they are slow and sometimes breakdown but when I try to do it in chrome they just work fine. Like I was trying to submit some work using google classroom on firefox it wasn't letting me upload the work but when I did it in chrome it just worked well

The consequence of this is not that I think Firefox is bad, by the way. It's that I think Google are a bunch of idiots.

Yet another "oops" to add to the pile

https://twitter.com/johnath/status/1116871246510264320

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Can a googler chime in to explain why Gmail is so slow at loading even on the most robust PCs with high speed internet?

Try this one: https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/h/77z33rvyv1lz It's HTML version of gmail and it loads instantly.

It's so fast! Blink and it's fully loaded! Also kind of looks better too. But that's subjective, I guess.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…

I don't think I agree with you here.

Make Cloud UI fast is probably not their priority. This is an enterprise product, not consumer facing, users are much less likely to be turned off due to slow UI. They will wait.

Integrity/Security would be much higher on the list than UI loading speed.

Not surprising at all.

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Atlassian is one of those places that I just can't believe has gotten so widely used. Every single thing I've used that is an Atlassian product drives me nuts. I really don't understand how anyone at any point looked at Jira or Confluence or anything Atlassian puts out and said "yep, this is the best version of this thing I've seen, sign me up". I've been using JIRA for years now, and it never gets any easier or bett…

As far as I understand it, it's because Jira is not made for developers. It's made for SCRUM and Project Managers that need fancy graphs and lots and lots of fields and processes. It's their reason for existence, so they have every incentive to make it so that developers do not understand.

Doing a small startup I forget about this nonsense sometimes. I could make more at a big company but when I read this I am glad to be doing what I am doing.

Re: Why is the Google Cloud UI so slow?

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I think the answer is: This is the best the richest and best companies in the world, with their best paid 100x rockstar developers can do. Google is literally both the creator of the browser (Chrome), the framework (Angular) and the web-app (GCP) we use and still, this mess is the best they can give us. They have direct access to the creators of Chrome and Angular, in some sense they are the owners of the internet an…

I am pretty sure there as boatloads of developers that want to do good and even know what needs to be done just as in every single company I have ever worked with.

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Google's UI's in general are shockingly slow. I don't understand why my Google Drive and Gmail have input lag and choppy animations on my 5 year old xps13, it's not that hard to make navigating a filesystem or list of emails fast. Actually I do understand, it's because they want everything they build to be made in a massive javascript framework with shared components, which looks nice but runs like garbage on anythin…

I noticed this for last few years. Google stuffs been increasingly adding much JS in their stuff every year and that bogging down my system. Even loading Google Drive took average 6 second to fully load whereas it was about 3 seconds last year. YouTube is not quick to load anymore like it was before. And this is all in Chrome and other Chromium-based browsers.

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User to Dev: the memory usage is excessive. Dev with 256 GB RAM to User: WFM I would not be surprised if a lot of these problems could be traced back to developers having above-average network connections and super beefy computers. Combine that with fresh or minimal installs while testing the software, without lots of data that accumulated over month or years of use and in consequence they experience their products a…

Why is everyone assuming that just because someone works for Google has to be competent? Solving algorithmic puzzles is not an indicator or actual technical skills. To me, it looks like a work of incompetent developers led by incompetent technical managers upon requirements of clueless and ignorant product managers.

I think by attributing it do incompetence you're missing the incentives problem.

Others point this out, but Google just has no incentives to improve this UX. Think about who makes the decisions to use Google cloud and what criteria they are using.

The snappiness of the gcp ui is not likely to be near the top of their list

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