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Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

I think the resistance towards that particular book is because the full title is "How to win friends and influence people". The last part in particular is what makes it sound sleazy. It would be very different if the book had just been called "How to make friends".

Actually, the french translation or this book has got the title "how to make friend" (comment se faire des amis)

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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This looks like a beautiful software. But I would like to add some thoughts. In the past I've been using many tools for managing all kinds of data. In the 90s MS Access for creating personal database "apps". In the 2000s various CRM solutions (desktop-based, self-hosted and hosted; among others Act CRM, SugarCRM, Highrise). Also, extensively used a self-hosted version of Confluence as a personal wiki (yeah, way to he…

There is no reason why you could not run any of the (self hosted) solutions you've mentioned in fifty years. Your data is still yours and it's easy enough to transform the database with simple tools in any format you like, if you choose to do so. For me the build in capabilities of these tools can not be beaten by text files. Especially when it comes to searching/filtering and linking your data. In the end the database and business logic are still just files on your hard drive

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

for some reason you omitted the sleazier half of the title "...and influence people". Improving social skills and using them manipulatively are entirely different things. If you've ever known or worked with psychopaths you'll get that immediately. I suppose there's a continuum but still.

Have you read the book? It’s very far from being sleazy or manipulative, but rather a guide to what people tend to think are agreeable qualities.

Fair enough, I have not and was going on hearsay, but from wikipedia "As time passed however, scholarly reviews became more critical, chiding Carnegie for being insincere and manipulative" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Win_Friends_and_Influen...)

And it also says "Charles Manson used what he learned from the book in prison to manipulate women into killing on his behalf" but I don't know if that can be blamed on the book.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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This looks like a beautiful software. But I would like to add some thoughts. In the past I've been using many tools for managing all kinds of data. In the 90s MS Access for creating personal database "apps". In the 2000s various CRM solutions (desktop-based, self-hosted and hosted; among others Act CRM, SugarCRM, Highrise). Also, extensively used a self-hosted version of Confluence as a personal wiki (yeah, way to he…

There is no reason why you could not run any of the (self hosted) solutions you've mentioned in fifty years. Your data is still yours and it's easy enough to transform the database with simple tools in any format you like, if you choose to do so. For me the build in capabilities of these tools can not be beaten by text files. Especially when it comes to searching/filtering and linking your data. In the end the databa…

Very idealistic. - Have you ever tried to maintain a PHP project or Django project or any other web project after several years?

Dependencies break, packages are abandoned, or the whole project gets abandoned, then try to maintain the regular updates, patches, fixes. Whole lot of work, until you give up, have yet another database dump in your hand and no interface to work with the data. Of course you can query those tables, get your data out of them, but that's another story.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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Does PHP keep backward compatibility?

I ever used some open source PHP soft (forums and wikis) several years ago. The development of these soft has been discontinued for a long time now.

Recently, I decided to re-install the php4 age but failed. There are too many APIs and syntax are broken now.

Anyone else have the same experiences?

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #135

Every time I see some open source project in PHP I get excited, then see "Laravel" and leave to never return. Domain model coupled with framework and active record... Sorry, unable to contribute :|

Personally, I feel Laravel is amongst the top reasons why PHP is so vibrant. The amount of innovation that sprung from Laravel and it’s close ecosystem is amazing, LiveWire, Inertia, Alpine.js, Tailwind just to name a few.

I am yet to see a single framework-agnostic project using Laravel, that's the main problem for me.

It's like Ruby on Rails, you're either Ruby developer or "Rails developer". Same dichotomy for PHP/"Laravel developer" for me.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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post #79

I have to mention that this is one of the top 3 tools in my personal stack. See some comments below regarding various things I saw in this thread. Stability: Been running it for 2+ years now (or is it 3+ already?), no problems whatsoever. I update when the mood strikes - never had to roll back because something wasn't working. Why: As someone who considers himself terrible at remembering things, this little piece of…

> There's a (repeating) notion in this thread that keeping up with people is somehow linked to how much you care about them. I care deeply about many people I meet, personally, but I don't think the two are necessarily correlated. I wholeheartedly agree. There’s a similar resistance towards books like “How to win friends...”, like you’re a sleazy car salesman for trying to improve your social skills. It’s like harpin…

I have a friend who does this. It used to be that every year or so he would come out to where I live for a convention he liked to go to and he would stay at my house for 3-4 days and we'd catch up, go do some stuff in the evening when he wasn't at the convention, etc.

One year he resolved to "do better about keeping up" - apparently feeling bad that our entire message history was him texting me a month before the convention asking if he could stay with me, and me saying that he could. True to his word, ever after that, he has periodically texted me every few months just to make idle conversation. He even stopped going to the convention but still keeps messaging me periodically - which I appreciate because it shows he didn't view me only as a hotel replacement.

Still, I prefer our old arrangement. Frankly, I don't need to know how he is doing every few months and I find it a bit awkward to make small talk any way. As I just have one friend that does this it's not so bad, but if I had more friends who wanted to just regularly "check in" like this, I'd have to start blocking people, ending friendships, or developing an automated routine to tell the curious that I'm doing well and to ask about their family and our mutual friends, etc.

Re: Monica: Personal CRM. Remember everything about your friends, family and etc.

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https://getdex.com/blog/personal-crm-in-2020-20-startups-app... This is an organized list and comparison of Personal CRMs.

Note: this is written by a Personal CRM (Dex) and is pretty slanted. They put themselves first on the list, which is fine, but have broken URLs (example: https//clay.earth/ ) for most of their competitors and throw shade at projects like Monica, calling them "single developer projects... with relatively limited feature sets".
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