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Diego Maradona has died

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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corpMaverick wrote: post #138
Daishiman wrote: post #116

I'll represent the other, unpopular side: the man did as much if not more damage than all the glory he had. As a footballer his career was finished pretty much 30 years ago. He left the '94 World Cup testing positive for drugs in what was a national embarrassment. His career as a manager was a disaster that existed purely off his prior fame. It's an embarrassment that we are unable to move on past things that happene…

I don't disagree with you. But it is not like first world countries are inmune. Just look at a current president whose lies, cheating and incompetence are inexplicably excused by 70 million first world voters.

Oh I'm not saying that it's immune at all, but the outrage against Trump is at the very least visible and palpable and those who excuse them are visibly ashamed of the support.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Daishiman wrote: post #116

I'll represent the other, unpopular side: the man did as much if not more damage than all the glory he had. As a footballer his career was finished pretty much 30 years ago. He left the '94 World Cup testing positive for drugs in what was a national embarrassment. His career as a manager was a disaster that existed purely off his prior fame. It's an embarrassment that we are unable to move on past things that happene…

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by msapaydin »

Daishiman wrote: post #116

I'll represent the other, unpopular side: the man did as much if not more damage than all the glory he had. As a footballer his career was finished pretty much 30 years ago. He left the '94 World Cup testing positive for drugs in what was a national embarrassment. His career as a manager was a disaster that existed purely off his prior fame. It's an embarrassment that we are unable to move on past things that happene…

I don't agree with you. I recommend you watch Maradona documentary by Kapadia to better understand his career.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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msla wrote: post #124
PlugTunin wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Just something to consider next time you are thrown for a loop while scrolling to find the latest Python news.

> It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Where? I've never heard of him.

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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msla wrote: post #122
mellosouls wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's presumably here because HN is not parochial and Maradona was a Michael Jordan level global superstar, with some claiming him as the greatest ever at his sport.

> Michael Jordan Who wouldn't belong here, either.

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by PlugTunin »

msla wrote: post #122
mellosouls wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's presumably here because HN is not parochial and Maradona was a Michael Jordan level global superstar, with some claiming him as the greatest ever at his sport.

> Michael Jordan Who wouldn't belong here, either.

There would not be any place for the news of his passing on Hacker News, if that were to happen?!

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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PlugTunin wrote: post #73
aazaa wrote: post #42

Not sure why this is here (don't follow soccer and never heard of Maradona), but the "Hand of God" incident is an entertaining read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_hand_of_God and watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ccNkksrfls On second thought, this was probably a hack of sorts.

It's possible that he was sort of a big deal? Just something to consider next time you are thrown for a loop while scrolling to find the latest Python news.

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Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by triceratops »

whoisjuan wrote: post #33
s_dev wrote: post #5

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What about Pelé?

It doesn’t even compare. Pele played in a primitive era of the sport where the existing rules (or lack of them) helped him thrive. Maradona played in an era that is more akin to modern football with stricter rules. Don’t get me wrong. Pele was great, but I doubt he would have been that great in modern football.

> Pele was great, but I doubt he would have been that great in modern football.

This argument has never made any sense to me, in any sport or discipline. If you directly bring a 25-year old Pele or Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky to 2020 using a time machine, they won't measure up to their peers. If you send an average math professor from a mid-tier college back to 1680s England, they'd dazzle Newton. Because standards and the base level of skill have gone up across the board since then.

That doesn't mean average math professors today are smarter than Newton. And it doesn't mean the average professional footballer today is actually better than Pele or any of the other greats of the past. Bring baby Pele (or Jordan or Gretzky) to 2020 and (barring injuries) he'd be a world-beater in 20 years.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by riffraff »

edwardor wrote: post #127

This 2019 documentary about Maradona's time playing for Napoli is well worth watching. It has some incredible archival footage — https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Maradona_(film)

it is hard to overstate how important Maradona was and still is for people in Naples.

To this day you can see representations of him all over the city, he was almost as revered as a local Saint, possibly more.

It's a pity the city is "off" due to COVID19, I would expect some big celebrations.

Re: Diego Maradona has died

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Post by riffraff »

dylan604 wrote: post #132
aloukissas wrote: post #12

Imagine if we had this silly VAR technology in the 80s. Then one of the most iconic moments in football history (hand of god) would have been reviewed and dismissed. RIP Diegito

I think you are giving VAR too much credit. There have been some silly silly reviews that VAR has allowed things to stand or not even reviewed.

true, but not in the latest world cup, as far as I remember. Probably having multiple VA referees instead of one makes a difference.
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