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#141
post #58

From a "Why, who cares" perspective website (and app) speed are highly correlated with conversion and engagement. Google's headline research on the subject says "Improving your load time by 0.1s can boost conversion rates by 8%." Some add'l data, sourced by Neilsen Group below: - Google found that increasing the load time of its SERPs by half a second resulted in a 20% higher bounce rate. - Google found 53% of mobile…

I used to work for a major e-commerce company and will back this up. The importance of performance, of course, depends on the use case. In e-commerce, the biggest factors (that come to mind) to compete on are—SEO and brand aside—price, offerings, and convenience. Convenience has two dimensions: UX and performance. If a user has a very clear idea of what they want from your site, they'll probably be patient. If a user…

I totally believe that the vast majority of page views are from channel surfing (or bots), but have a hard time believing that has any correlation to actual purchases.

If I'm spending an hour's pay on something I really want, of course I'll wait 10 seconds for the page to load, or if I can't get it to load at all, I'll make a note to try again later from different browser or internet connection. I'll manually enter my address details if they didn't auto-fill properly. I'll respond to emails on what I want to declare for customs, and various other efforts.

I, and people I know, feel like we buy very little on a whim. Is that unique? Are there whales who buy everything you can put in front of their face, or a different demographic who searches for something to buy and then changes their mind in precisely 850 milliseconds?

I would accept that like candy in the checkout lane, the profit is small but worth more than the extra effort it takes to put the offering there, but the revenue is small compared to the actual stuff people need to buy, but the analytics that suggest that hundreds of people click a link to your page but most close it faster than you can read the headline just seem unbelievable.

Re: 1MB Club

#142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're offering a service that is so uncompelling or so undifferentiated that the page load speed is a driving factor, than you should certainly focus on page load speed. On the other hand, Gmail regularly takes 10s+ to load and yet most users are glued to it. If you're a SaaS business, your marketing page is probably not your app. The people using your app care about usability, and page load speed is rarely the d…

I hear you saying that if my service is compelling enough, people will tolerate the horrendous page loads.

That is absolutely correct. Ask yourself: Will my customers be happier with additional features X, Y, and Z, or a faster page load?

Better yet, ask your actual customers.

Re: 1MB Club

#143
post #66
post #45

Ahh let the bikeshedding continue. In these situations all I want to say is "Who cares". Optimization matters when it actually solves a problem, before that it's just wasted effort. I don't hear the general public yelling from the rooftops "The web is too slow! Developers are building too fast! I wish we could go backwards!"

If general public even knew who to complain they would have surely yelled loudly. For now I hear non-tech people say 'Oh, our internet is slow even though we pay lot of money' Meanwhile valley bros keep helpfully reminding me to upgrade my computer to a reasonable 2020sh.

The general public likes to do things on the web other than reading minimalist hypertext. They like real-time chat and video and images and playing games in the browser. They would rather be able to do the things they like faster and more efficiently than abandon the last 20 years of technological progress.

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#146

1MB. When I started writing Web sites (late '90s), we'd get spanked for 50K pages. I'm not sure it's possible, anymore, with a lot of the CSS and JS libraries; let alone the content. But back then, we didn't have content delivery networks. CDNs make a huge difference.

the new internet sucks

priorities all over the place and major regression in the most crucial things

Re: 1MB Club

#147
post #50

How accurate is this list? I see it mentions that visiting https://danluu.com/ downloads only 9.1 kB but when I actually visit this website with Google Chrome, in the Developer Tools' Network tab, I see that a total of 21.7 kB is transferred. Name Status Type Size ------------ ------ -------- -------- danluu.com 200 document 2.5 kB analytics.js 200 script 18.9 kB collect 200 xhr 67 B favicon.ico 404 text/html 266 B S…

Your page looks very nice, I almost want to duplicate my own website into a format that's just a list of links and titles.

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#148
Shameless plug: My page, a fully-featured message board with tagging and stats, private key based accounts, and optional JavaScript features, the homepage is much smaller :)

Re: 1MB Club

#149
post #97
post #23

Interesting that a site that champions for performance has an ungodly favicon [0] that is 10x larger (15KB) than the page itself. [0] https://1mb.club/favicon.ico

I did a quick Google search and discovered that SVG favicons are valid in most browsers, so for fun I reduced it by 95% down to 886 bytes: https://output.jsbin.com/yudonidujo

And it looks much nicer zoomed in (as in your link) ;)
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