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Vitamin D Supplementation Improves Cognitive Function: 12-month RCT

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Post by noir_lord »

Honga wrote: post #101
roel_v wrote: post #94

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I always see Americans (apologies for making assumptions if you're not) throw around blood testing like it's something trivial and casually done. Here in the Netherlands, it takes a real medical indication and some pushing of a doctor to get any testing done. Alternatively, you use a private testing company that costs 200 to 400 euros for a comprehensive screening. Question to the public in various countries - how ea…

The Dutch health care system is allergic to preventative care. It's stunningly hard to try and just get routine things checker/done. As an Australian, having lived in four different countries, I'd say the Dutch system is the odd one out here.

UK system is the same.

Amazing when something goes awry, not great at preventing the thing going awry though they have made some good improvements recently (starting with their website debunking bullshit claims and headlines in the press).

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Post by tecleandor »

WhiteSage wrote: post #106
roel_v wrote: post #94

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I always see Americans (apologies for making assumptions if you're not) throw around blood testing like it's something trivial and casually done. Here in the Netherlands, it takes a real medical indication and some pushing of a doctor to get any testing done. Alternatively, you use a private testing company that costs 200 to 400 euros for a comprehensive screening. Question to the public in various countries - how ea…

In Spain you go to your healthcare doctor and ask, and they will usually grant you the blood test, but it depends on them. I never had any issues though.

Yep, expect for this weird COVID-19 year, were it's advised to no overload the health system, usually you would only need to see your GP and tell him/her "it's been a while since last check up" or "I'm feeling weird/tired/not sleeping well" and usually they would begin by a basic blood test.

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Post by elric »

ben_w wrote: post #108
elric wrote: post #93

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The way I understand it is that drinks fortified with Vit D are nearly always fortified with D2, whereas the consensus seems to be that D3 is the way to go. Not sure whether that's because D3 is less stable in drinks, or maybe there's another reason to prefer D2 there?

According to this article D3 is never vegan: https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/vitamin-d2-vs-d3#TOC_TI... I believe “being vegan” is the point of most milk substitutes.

Cow's milk is also commonly fortified with D2. I'm guessing the vegan argument likely isn't the only reason.

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Post by raverbashing »

mattmanser wrote: post #119
eloff wrote: post #40

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There's an expert that specializes in vitamin D toxicity cases and regularly posts here. She sees cases at less than the 10000IU daily dose Fauci takes. I would be hesitant to go above 4000IU daily without monitoring blood levels every six months or so. Its winter here in Canada, I'm taking 3000IU per day. I drop that to 1000IU in the summer. I'm not a doctor, not recommending you do the same. Just sharing.

Her post about someone with serious health problems with over-dosing vit d (in this case, just 5,000 UI): https://www.devaboone.com/post/vitamin-d-part-2-shannon-s-st... Her post about vit d in general: https://www.devaboone.com/post/vitamin-d-part-1-back-to-basi...

> 5000 international units (IUs) daily. Five years later

Five years. Of 5000 IUs per day

Five years. Of more than 10x the EU RDA (and maybe 5x more than the US RDA, still)

But please tell me again how easy it is to overdose

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Post by sokoloff »

moron4hire wrote: post #76
artursapek wrote: post #58

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An airplane is probably a safer place to be than your local grocery store right now.

Am I the only one who finds it laughable to consider trusting the word of companies the likes of Delta, Southwest, and US Air? They seem fundamentally incompetent in pretty much every other aspect of anything that doesn't involve literally keeping the plane from crashing. Why would I believe the air filtration systems are even going to be operational, say nothing about effective when they are?

Pressurized airliners have about 15 air changes per hour or 3-4x what’s typical in an office building. This is air exchanges with the outside, not filtration cycles which are in addition. Even if the filters were entirely INOP, I suspect you’re no worse off than sitting in an office building.

Now, I’m not doing that right now, but there’s little reason to think major US carriers aren’t doing what they say they’re doing and if the air change mechanism wasn’t working, you’d see oxygen masks deploying as that’s the mechanism by which the aircraft remains pressurized.

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Post by httpsterio »

roel_v wrote: post #94
monetus wrote: post #34

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For reference: The level of toxicity listed in your link is 60,000IU per day. Fauci said he takes 10,000IU per day. The bottle I purchased recommends 2,000IU per day. Get your blood work done people.

I always see Americans (apologies for making assumptions if you're not) throw around blood testing like it's something trivial and casually done. Here in the Netherlands, it takes a real medical indication and some pushing of a doctor to get any testing done. Alternatively, you use a private testing company that costs 200 to 400 euros for a comprehensive screening. Question to the public in various countries - how ea…

I have free health care through my university here in Finland and my doctor writes me any test I can back up sufficiently. If I want to go the private route, a basic blood panel with minerals and vitamins is somewhere around 100 euros. Not cheap but definitely doable.

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Post by ImperviousPandi »

roel_v wrote: post #94
monetus wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reference: The level of toxicity listed in your link is 60,000IU per day. Fauci said he takes 10,000IU per day. The bottle I purchased recommends 2,000IU per day. Get your blood work done people.

I always see Americans (apologies for making assumptions if you're not) throw around blood testing like it's something trivial and casually done. Here in the Netherlands, it takes a real medical indication and some pushing of a doctor to get any testing done. Alternatively, you use a private testing company that costs 200 to 400 euros for a comprehensive screening. Question to the public in various countries - how ea…

A few tips from living in the Netherlands

1. Find a different huisarts, one that specializes in expats. Check on google maps reviews. I found a great one that will give me referrals whenever I ask. 2. Go to that doctor and tell them you've been tired and want to check nutrition levels.

We found a local huisarts that does walk-ins in the mornings which makes it much easier.

My partner went and said he was having stomach pains and that we recently went vegan, that was enough to get a referral for a blood test.

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Post by swebs »

collyw wrote: post #135
monetus wrote: post #34

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For reference: The level of toxicity listed in your link is 60,000IU per day. Fauci said he takes 10,000IU per day. The bottle I purchased recommends 2,000IU per day. Get your blood work done people.

What is IU compared to micrograms? (Is it international units? My girlfriend mentioned this measure to me this morning when I gave her a vitamin tabled measured in micrograms, I don't know much about it).

It depends on the vitamin. 1 microgram of vitamin D is 40 IU.

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Post by ignasl »

roel_v wrote: post #94
monetus wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For reference: The level of toxicity listed in your link is 60,000IU per day. Fauci said he takes 10,000IU per day. The bottle I purchased recommends 2,000IU per day. Get your blood work done people.

I always see Americans (apologies for making assumptions if you're not) throw around blood testing like it's something trivial and casually done. Here in the Netherlands, it takes a real medical indication and some pushing of a doctor to get any testing done. Alternatively, you use a private testing company that costs 200 to 400 euros for a comprehensive screening. Question to the public in various countries - how ea…

If your car breaks you would spend 400 eur in an instant without even thinking. If you feel something is off or to do this comprehensive biochemical tests every 3 or 5 years is not that expensive.
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