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Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#141
post #24

You've got to be kidding me. When Apple's servers are down, all Macs worldwide start freezing randomly? My XCode is hanging during builds, is this why? This code signing enforcement stuff has gone way too far. Heads should roll for this.

That's correct. AFAIK Catalina will check online for everything, even binaries you compile yourself.

wait what, how?

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#142
post #33

Maybe it's just me but the idea that my computer lets Apple (+ any LE organizations) surveil my app launches seems so much scarier than any malware.

Why is it scary that your computer checks for malware?

It’s not like Apple us building a database of apps you’ve launched linked to your address and social security number.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#143
post #2

Unbelievable. When I read the tweet (tried to post here as well), I suddenly realized why my Mac was unresponsive an hour ago. Here is another tweet that describes the problem in more detail: https://mobile.twitter.com/llanga/status/1326989724704268289 > I am currently unable to work because macOS sends hashes of every opened executable to some server of theirs and when `trustd` and `syspolicyd` are unable to do so,…

I started panicking mildly thinking my drive was failing or something. And just before this, I finally managed to fix Spotlight pegging one core at 100% constantly. Next thing, I reboot into a laggy system. macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with... it's basically an abusive relationship at this point.

> macOS is my favorite OS, but the shit I put up with...

Right there with ya.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#144

Don't you love it the ability to compile and run software on your hardware is controlled by a third party over the internet? I sure love the SAAS future we are heading forwards.

I will be a full on linux junkie when that happens.

By then it will be too late

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#145

Don't you love it the ability to compile and run software on your hardware is controlled by a third party over the internet? I sure love the SAAS future we are heading forwards.

I will be a full on linux junkie when that happens.

It IS, though. SmartScreen on Windows doesn't check binaries created on the same machine, but you'll get flagged if you move the untrusted binary to another machine you own.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#147

Wow this is a huge cluster - threw a complete wrench in my work for almost an hour. Is this what we should be expecting from Apple going forward?

Apple want to be the closed garden, this will eventually happen.

tbh, I'm a huge fan of macs but only really because I use it as a client/screen.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#148

You should never, ever, install a MacOS update the moment it comes out. There is a high chance (> 30% from my experience) that something will be wrong with it. iOS too for that matter. Wait for at least one week and check out other people's experiences first.

This has nothing to do with a software update. I haven't updated anything and am still running into this. It's their online services that are the problem.

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#149
post #9

My MacBook is basically unusable right now. This appears to be the reason. Is there any way to fix it without installing little snitch? Edit: working as usual now, moments after i wrote this. But seriously Apple, how can you allow this to happen? Your services hanging should _never_ prevent my device from running things locally. This is seriously making me reconsider my next computer purchase.

Turn off your internet, open the app, turn it back on.

This was my intuition!

I was in the middle of a call to fix a problem with a customer, I need to near-panic telling them MY computer was frozen.

Thanks Apple!

Re: macOS unable to open any non-Apple application

#150
post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This has happened since forever on Mac, Windows and Ubuntu.

No it has not.

I'm fairly sure Windows does upload at least some hashes if you have it enabled in Windows Defender (which it is by default). Don't expect Ubuntu does this though.
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