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Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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> even on the day of their wedding, both made time for lab work. This would be the definition of pure passion and what it takes to accomplish something like this. These people are a totally different breed compared to people I know. Kudos to them for their achievements.

Couple goals!

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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This Covid vaccine was created by a German company founded by the children of Turkish immigrants. In this time of open racism and public hostility to immigration, this needs to be pointed out and repeated. It was children of Turkish immigrants to Germany.

From a logical standpoint: If this should be pointed out specifically, should the same be done for crimes commited by immigrants? If not, isn’t that technically disingenious or at least a double standard?

It depends on what you want to achieve.

Do you want to have race based discrimination and murders? go with the selectively pointing out the crimes committed by immigrants are committed by immigrants. This will give the illusion of causation(Immigrants do this because they are ).

If you want to have a society where people are judged by merit but you still have people arguing that it’s the race we should be looking for, go with pointing out the success of the immigrants. This will break the "Turks commit crimes because they are Turks" claim and inspire people to look to replicate the success of the successful ones.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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Yes, that would indeed be a different scenario.

Why? Can one not be passionate about accounting?

There's a slight difference between striving to save lives and striving to maximize profits for shareholders.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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I can't quite tell, are you being sarcastic? If so, I'd just like to point out that there's nothing wrong with being proud of the place where you're from or of the accomplishments of the people of the community there.

of course, he's being sarcastic. people tend to be patriotic about the good stuff and forget about the rest. that's his point.

Well spotted, and you're absolutely correct - I was being sarcastic, and to be so on this site took an awful lot of consideration, especially as I refuse to use '/s'. Further regarding my 'point' (dig?), I would have responded the same had the poster said '...as a German I apologize for [obvious historical things]'. The irony that the couple are immigrants added an extra dimension.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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That's excellent. Well done for being so close. Hope nothing bad happens locally that would ever make you apologise for being where you are (from).

I can't quite tell, are you being sarcastic? If so, I'd just like to point out that there's nothing wrong with being proud of the place where you're from or of the accomplishments of the people of the community there.

.../s. Because parochialism. Using soccer (any sport) as an example - City a fans hate local City b fans when they play each other. When a or b play c (out of local area) a and b fans are against c. Proud to be from a+b. If a, b, or c play against d (very far) then a, b, and c become United. Ie, North-South divide. At a national level a-z are suddenly patriotic and suddenly everything is America's fault. God, I hate team sports almost as much as the misuse of commas and religion :-)

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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Why? Can one not be passionate about accounting?

There's a slight difference between striving to save lives and striving to maximize profits for shareholders.

How many lives were saved by going into the lab on their wedding night, as opposed to the next day?

If an accountant works for Pfizer, aren't they indirectly involved in saving lives too?

I'm not even criticizing the fact that they went into the lab on their wedding night. I'm criticizing how unhealthy behavior that may be called out in other contexts is viewed as not only healthy behavior but commendable behavior if the reader has positive associations with the specific acts of unhealthy behavior.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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post #54

Everyone is excited about "90% efficacy", but nobody mentions the rate of side effects. Hmm. If this is injected into several billion people, twice into each person, wouldn't you want to know at least an estimate of the ratio before you do that? Especially with mandatory vaccination looming on the horizon.

do you really think the thousands of scientists working on this just forgot to take into account the harm caused by the vaccine in comparison to covid?

Mind reading doesn't work. I was merely pointing out there doesn't seem to be safety data yet, and it will be required to deploy this widely. This is PR pure and simple. It doesn't mean that "we have a vaccine" quite yet, unless you want to recklessly endanger a lot of people. We won't have it for a while.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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post #82

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of course, he's being sarcastic. people tend to be patriotic about the good stuff and forget about the rest. that's his point.

Well spotted, and you're absolutely correct - I was being sarcastic, and to be so on this site took an awful lot of consideration, especially as I refuse to use '/s'. Further regarding my 'point' (dig?), I would have responded the same had the poster said '...as a German I apologize for [obvious historical things]'. The irony that the couple are immigrants added an extra dimension.

I also refuse to tag sarcasm. Your typical computer nerd tends to be also a bit high on the autism spectrum which correlates with difficulties at identifying irony and sarcasm - which explains the downvotes even for statements which are in line with the HN mainstream (like your's). Keep the sarcasm coming!

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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It doesn't matter where they are from. This was the work of a group of dedicated individuals working together. Their national origins are irrelevant. If you want to end the "open racism", focus more on individuals and less on groups.

I disagree. It breaks the false narrative of "immigrants are just a burden for the society".

With the exception of the small group of racists and alt right nutjobs, I'm not seeing it. I see complaints against illegal migration, but that's not the same thing. We should not conflate the two.

Re: Behind Pfizer's vaccine, an understated husband-and-wife “dream team”

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It’s as relevant as a black US president. Or a female Vice President.

aka identity politics

Here’s the story of a lady inspired by the character of lt. Uhura on the original Star Trek:

https://today.duke.edu/2013/10/maejemison

In the future there are going to be similar stories about people inspired by president Obama and Vice President Harris because these models show them how far they can go.

It’s not about identity politics, it’s about showing people they can escape the box society appears to capture them in.

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