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RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by phjesusthatguy3 »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #68
Vivtek wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But look, this is exactly because Spotify/Amazon/Netflix are responding to reality and providing media at a price point that reflects it. That's a desired outcome.

Not really, because Spotify/Amazon/Netflix aren't giving you media, they only rent it out to you. They can and do retroactively take away access to any piece of content, while keeping the money.

They're not renting media to you, they're selling you an access license to something they may or may not have at any given moment. Literally Nothing-as-a-Service.

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Post by knaik94 »

fsflover wrote: post #131
black_puppydog wrote: post #125

I read an interview with Gottfrid Warg (pirate bay co-founder) some years back. Can't find it now... What stuck with me was his disappointment that the wider torrent community simply relied on the pirate bay always making a return. There was no real effort to go beyond resilient hosting. No producing facts by superior technology. It was just a bunch of copy-cats playing whac-a-mole with the copyright industry. To par…

I prefer torrents inside I2P [0], because otherwise my IP will be shown to everyone. I wonder why there are so few people there. It's of course slow, but it's worth it. There are already quite a few torrent trackers. [0] https://geti2p.net

What kind of speeds do you get? Because last time I tried it getting above a few megabits per second was a struggle. When we're talking about even an Ubuntu ISO, it's a couple gigs. It's too slow to want me to keep using it.

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Post by A_No_Name_Mouse »

If they're going after individual sites, could a 'workaround' be to keep switching domain names with a suffix like the week number? With a redirect on the main site to the site of the week. It would require new takedown notices every week.

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Post by macspoofing »

throw_m239339 wrote: post #134
macspoofing wrote: post #132

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That's a good question. Why is RIAA going after YouTube download software and not Google?

Ad backed music streaming has become an unexpected major source of income from music labels. That's also true for indies. I don't make money off youtube directly however my distributor claims videos using my music and I make money off ads on youtube indirectly. The payout isn't big, but it's not insignificant either. I imagine a lot of major artists make good money off youtube too. They don't if someone just download…

Do people actually download music from YouTube? I imagine kids could just stream anything they want, anytime they want, legally.

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Post by fsflover »

knaik94 wrote: post #142
fsflover wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I prefer torrents inside I2P [0], because otherwise my IP will be shown to everyone. I wonder why there are so few people there. It's of course slow, but it's worth it. There are already quite a few torrent trackers. [0] https://geti2p.net

What kind of speeds do you get? Because last time I tried it getting above a few megabits per second was a struggle. When we're talking about even an Ubuntu ISO, it's a couple gigs. It's too slow to want me to keep using it.

Indeed, few Mbps is typical for the current number of users. It can take days to download relatively large files. Still, is speed more important than anonymity? Definitely not always, perhaps never.

I hope it gets better with more users, as it happened with Tor.

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Post by black_puppydog »

happy-dude wrote: post #140
black_puppydog wrote: post #125

I read an interview with Gottfrid Warg (pirate bay co-founder) some years back. Can't find it now... What stuck with me was his disappointment that the wider torrent community simply relied on the pirate bay always making a return. There was no real effort to go beyond resilient hosting. No producing facts by superior technology. It was just a bunch of copy-cats playing whac-a-mole with the copyright industry. To par…

In a strange twist of irony... This was what copyright was meant to do: promote a diverse body of works while protecting existing ones. It should come to no surprise that notable torrenting sites have many low-effort imitators. If anyone could copy stuff already out there, why spend the extra effort to innovate? I'm all for open-source, but I recognize the value of copyright (and how it protects FOSS-licensed materia…

"Copycat" in this context didn't mean literally copying TPB (although that did happen and was actually made possible by them dumping their DB at some point IIRC).

Most torrent sites do seem to have an own code base. It's not like they run the same software (or at least they have different themes, I never actually checked).

It is also neither surprising nor bad that the sites still have the same goals/design basics. They all solve the same problem, so they will end up looking similar overall. No problem with that.

What is being criticized here (by me, I don't wanna put words into Warg's mouth since it's an old, probably misremembered interview) is that the way that they deliver that "product" (in this context: the torrent website itself, not the hosted torrents' contents!) in an unimaginative way without taking into account the changing battlefield.

Fully i2p torrent sites? Niche.

Local DHT scraping with an overlay net of torrent index exchange à la yacy or magnetico? Niche.

And apparently: hosting anywhere that is not immediately susceptible to direct US influence, i.e. NOT on namecheap+cloudflare? Still kind of niche. Wtf?

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Post by rolph »

at some point the video is decrypted and exists on your machine, in memory. if you raid the cache after you force buffering bcz 4K and narrow bandwidth then you cant help but make a copy to your hard drive or other such non volatile.

here is one such approach:

https://www.wikihow.com/Save-Streaming-Video

here is my search string just as a knee jerk, but a deliberately crafted string will pop some real gems.

https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=save%20video%20from%20buf...

enjoy the safari and have pride in any subsequent craftsmanship that comes from it.

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Post by fsflover »

rektide wrote: post #93
Buttons840 wrote: post #83

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Premium also generously allows you to turn off the screen while listening. Yeah, seeing that recently was a good reminder that my phone is not under my control.

The war on general purpose computing is strong. The RIAA has been at the forefront of restricting & preventing user freedoms since time immemorial. Only this time, unlike with Betamax[1], they are winning. Backed by anti-circumvention laws like the DMCA section 1201, which makes any lock, no matter how poorly built, a criminal violation to break or even to build or discuss ways of breaking. [1] https://consumerist.co…

> The war on general purpose computing is strong.

See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24866279.

Re: RIAA Obtains Subpoenas Targeting 40 YouTube-Ripping Platforms and Pirate Sites

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Post by itsoktocry »

autumn_unlaces wrote: post #77
itsoktocry wrote: post #23

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Starlink might solve the issue of providing internet to far-flung places, which is great. But I'm skeptical they'll be able to massively undercut all of the telecom providers. Building, launching and maintaining a satellite constellation isn't cheap; it's still a question as to whether the economics will work at all.

The announced pricing for the current "beta" is $99/month plus $500 upfront for the hardware.

>The announced pricing for the current "beta" is $99/month plus $500 upfront for the hardware.

Yes, that's the price they charge. What are the costs of providing the service?

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Post by CompuHacker »

procombo wrote: post #130
jaflo wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be interested in AdNauseam, a browser extension that automates this: https://adnauseam.io/

As someone deeply integrated into the ad serving world, I'd like to remind you that adnauseam traffic is very easy to filter out as noise. Nobody is paying for that traffic.

How could it be made to work better?
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