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This is thoughtful but stupid because it goes in the wrong direction - new York is already at being close to the pinnacle of protecting people from their own stupidity so to speak - does this person take zero responsibility for ambling in the dark on an unknown terrace without looking _while_ drunk? When do we tell people they are just clumsy and need to own up to it? Many new york rooftops are closed for this reason…
He's just an idiot as far as I'm concerned.
Falling five storeys from a New York rooftop changed my life
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Relax completely and go limp (easier said than done). Tense muscles will exert more force on the things they're attached to like bones and organs, usually in opposing directions, which is what causes damage from otherwise trivial impacts. That's why, all other things being equal, drunk drivers experience fewer injuries in auto accidents - slower reaction times mean they don't react in time to tense up for the crash.…
> Tense muscles will exert more force on the things they're attached to like bones and organs, usually in opposing directions, which is what causes damage from otherwise trivial impacts. That's why, all other things being equal, drunk drivers experience fewer injuries in auto accidents - slower reaction times mean they don't react in time to tense up for the crash. Wow, is this true? I've noticed that when small babi…
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#143Reading this gives me flashbacks of my own fall from about 45 feet, which broke my spine, pelvis, and ankle. The initial days after the surgery were confusing, painful, and scary. If the fractures had been another half inch to the right, I would have been paralyzed for life. Indeed, I lost control over my bowel functions, and for a few agonizing days was unclear if I would ever get them back. I learned how to insert…
The sheer joy and gratitude at being alive after the surety of imminent death was a profound experience. I'm not sure its possible to reach that state of being unless you have been in that circumstance.
As you say, it fades over time. I wish I could channel that feeling every day.
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Years ago I had a legitimate attempt by taking a combination of a full bottle of opiates and benzos (A pretty deadly combination). I was pretty hell bent on being dead. I know at the time, my thoughts where use a gun (I am a big second amendment advocate, so was not going to be a statistic in the argument), carbon monoxide, pills or hanging. The reason I bring this up, is I actually think there are two main branches…
I wonder if there's a way to jolt one's brain into the right place for the first scenario without coming as close to death as possible. Seems like there's a lot more out there for thrill seekers than tired people. And I have to say, having experienced the tiredness but not the "tipping over" I find myself pretty afraid sometimes.
Anyways, I bring this up because there was systematic planning in my mind. If you find yourself going over the details it's time to raise your hand and tell someone. I did not really give a shit at that point so actually telling someone would have been easy but I also did not want people to thing I was seeking attention.
Anyways, when I came too I was pretty surprised to find that I was still alive and I set about a plan to ensure that I did not attempt again. For about a year, I would envision my daughters walking down the aisle without me, my sons seeing their first born. My wife, experience this all without me and growing old alone. It was enough for me to see the effect and pain my absence would cause other people. For the time, I could not live for myself, but I could live for them. Eventually I learned to live for myself again.
I find myself pretty afraid sometimes.
My contact info is in the profile, I am a complete stranger. Sometimes they are the easiest to talk to. If you ever find yourself at the tipping point, my door is always open, please contact me if you get there.
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This is just bad medical care, assuming the description is correct. Even if they had been given the pain meds, you move the shoulder slightly to see how well the pain medicine is working, if it’s not working well enough (= patient shows evidence of significant pain), you give more pain medicine. But it’s hard to get to some level of analgesia that can control the peak of the pain that will happen during joint reducti…
What happens to the doctor in cases like this? Seems like a slam dunk medical malpractice lawsuit but then again it's just one word against another and damages are hard to prove since pain is only experienced in the moment.
The lawyer would probably need to subpoena the nurse if the notes didn’t have adequate detail to tell one way or the other. About the “pain is only experienced in the moment” - it wouldn’t be hard to find expert witnesses willing to testify that this was unacceptable medical care. But I don’t know enough about the legal aspects to know how that would translate into a claim for damages.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tense muscles will exert more force on the things they're attached to like bones and organs, usually in opposing directions, which is what causes damage from otherwise trivial impacts. That's why, all other things being equal, drunk drivers experience fewer injuries in auto accidents - slower reaction times mean they don't react in time to tense up for the crash. Wow, is this true? I've noticed that when small babi…
Babies don't magically change weight. It's just when they are fighting being picked you are probably being forced into a position with less mechanical advantage.
We don't pick up the baby as a single movement. If we did, then yes there can be no magical weight change. But in reality, there's a bit of a choreography involved. Perhaps the baby holds up its arms, you put your arms below its shoulders, you raise it slowly. During this process, surely it can control how much of its weight you perceive?
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What happens to the doctor in cases like this? Seems like a slam dunk medical malpractice lawsuit but then again it's just one word against another and damages are hard to prove since pain is only experienced in the moment.
Depends on what’s written in the notes - but unless the notes specifically say otherwise, the presumption is that the patient’s recollection is the accurate one, given that this is an unusual situation for the patient to be in, but a routine situation for the doctor. The lawyer would probably need to subpoena the nurse if the notes didn’t have adequate detail to tell one way or the other. About the “pain is only expe…
That doesn't make sense to me. The patient is in a shocking situation and intoxicated. More important is that the doctor wasn't even present for the medication so has no evidence at all.
Damages are decided by jury's emotions.
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> Doctors are taught to be hypervigilant regarding "drug seeking behavior" which is pretty much a 1:1 list of behaviors of people whose suffering is "genuine." Slate Star Codex wrote about this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2019/09/16/against-against-pseudo... Basically, an addict wants to look genuine, so a lot of genuine patients have to put up with stuff designed to cut off addicts. Like the scary "FBI warning" that…
> Basically, an addict wants to look genuine, so a lot of genuine patients have to put up with stuff designed to cut off addicts. It's much stupider than that. Addicts want the drug. So all of the indicators of addiction are actually indicators of wanting the drug. So anyone who wants the drug is, ipso facto , an addict. There's no element of addicts trying to look more genuine. Look at that list of red flags: - Comp…
https://intervention911.com/common-signs-of-drug-seeking-beh...
- laiming they need more drugs to replace a lost or stolen prescription
- Misrepresenting their symptoms
- Frequent visits to multiple doctors, including a willingness to travel to a different city or state to see a new physician – a phenomenon called “doctor shopping”
- Unwillingness or inability to provide a complete health history or contact information for previous physicians
It's possible for a non-addicted person to do this, but actual statistics matter.
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> Basically, an addict wants to look genuine, so a lot of genuine patients have to put up with stuff designed to cut off addicts. It's much stupider than that. Addicts want the drug. So all of the indicators of addiction are actually indicators of wanting the drug. So anyone who wants the drug is, ipso facto , an addict. There's no element of addicts trying to look more genuine. Look at that list of red flags: - Comp…
Moreover, addicts suffering withdrawal are... suffering. This is the reason I put quotes around "genuine" in my original comment. The distinguishing factor between suffering from withdrawal and suffering from another source of pain is a moralizing judgement call on the doctor's part.
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Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue. Anyway if it's really 100x more potent than morphine you'd think any person that did have it in their bloodstream would not be all that capable of stating that they have not had their medication yet.
> Really seems like a "hey nurse did this patient have their fentanyl yet?" would have resolved this issue. You'd be surprised at how questionable hospital care is run in NY, even with $450 / month insurance with a high deductible. To protect the privacy of the person I know, here's a story from 2-5 months ago: - Person A goes into doctor's office for something pretty common - Doctor requests cat scan or MRI (I forgo…