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Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by diffeomorphism »

detaro wrote: post #82
diffeomorphism wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe a stupid question, but why? If you care about high resolution and good colors why are you keeping the low res second monitor? If you don't care about hires, why not simply set the Dell one to a lower resolution and not worry about scaling at all?

Because having extra screenspace to keep docs/chat/... on is nice and an old screen is good enough for that?

Is it? It apparently is not good enough for the main screen.

The thing is that scaling works just fine if all your displays use the same one. Two 4k screens -> awesome. Two fhd screen -> works just fine. It is only the combination of one hires and one lowres screen that is problematic.

So my maybe naive take away is that if you care that your main screen is 4k, then no your old screen is not good enough. And if you think it was good enough, then why did you feel the need to upgrade your main screen?

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by nanna »

Serious question: I enabled a Plasma option to make windows transparent when I hover over their corresponding 'application rectangle' (sorry, not sure what to call it) in the panel. It drives me mad but I just can't figure out how I everenabled it. Ditto with transparent menus. Can anyone advise?

In general I'm very happy with Plasma but it does expose UI options that can really harm the experience.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by MegaDeKay »

cupofjoakim wrote: post #61

Good job, as expected by the Plasma team. I really feel like this is a big step in the right direction. A personal wish however would be that we got a more modern look to more desktop environments. Both Gnome, Plasma and Pantheon (default in Elementary OS) are talked about as the best looking desktop environments, but I'd be lying if I said that any of them looked awesome. There's just something about them that make…

Nate Graham blogs about these types of consistency improvements every week. Lots of screenshots to show what has improved and what features are coming. Well worth a read. I think this shows the progress you are hoping to see.

https://pointieststick.com/

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by heavyset_go »

TillE wrote: post #132
qwerty456127 wrote: post #20

KDE 5 Plasma is amazing. Subjectively, I feel the following about it: after over 2 decades of being extremely buggy and extremely ugly, KDE has became a culmination of desktop PC GUI design, the best I've experienced so far (tiling WMs can be better in certain tasks and settings but not universally). Manjaro with recent KDE provides me what I call "a lot like Mac but way better" experience (surely, there are aspects…

It's still absolutely wild to me that KDE4 got released in the state it was in. I loved KDE3, maybe it had some issues but it mostly Just Worked as a Windows XP-like desktop environment. KDE4 was unusably broken for years and years, it's basically why I stopped using a Linux desktop. If KDE5 is finally good, I'll give it a shot.

> If KDE5 is finally good, I'll give it a shot.

I had strong opinions about KDE 3 & 4, and have been using KDE 5 exclusively for over a year now. I love it and couldn't imagine going back to a different DE or operating system.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by heavyset_go »

dheera wrote: post #123
thomond wrote: post #12

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> This is exactly the opposite of what I want. Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. Either way it's just the default they're changing, one good thing about grouping in Plasma is it lets you exclude certain applications so you can exclude your PDF viewer. Alot of other environments give an all or nothing approach.

> Well maybe it's what everyone else wants. It's not what I want either, and it's not what most other Linux users I know want either. It's copying the behavior of MacOS, plain and simple, and I disagree with them doing that. I don't use MacOS because I don't like MacOS, and the last thing I want is MacOS-like Linux.

It's a setting you can change.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by MegaDeKay »

kuschku wrote: post #50

I’ve been using Plasma for years, but after this release talking so much about the wayland improvements, the actual result is more than disappointing. First, to explain my setup: I've got a Dell UP2718Q in landscape, 3840x2160, 10-bit in DCI-P3 colorspace at 1.5x scale at 60Hz, side-by-side with a Fujitsu Siemens P17-2 in portrait, 1024x1280, 8-bit in sRGB colorspace at 1x scale at 75Hz 10-bit support isn’t there yet…

> Overall it’s a good start, but still not quite there yet.

If you mean Wayland, both the linked article and the video within the article acknowledge this, calling Wayland a work-in-progress. I too am looking forward to the day they get there.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by nsonha »

josefx wrote: post #62
nsonha wrote: post #39

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There maybe some people who want this but they are not the marority. A task and an application are unrelated things. A task most likely spans one/several browser tabs + a couple of documents in different apps.

So use virtual desktops for that? KDE also has those.

I haven't got into the habit of using them but the original issue we're talking about is arbitrary grouping that does not seem to help how people work in reality.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by dTal »

neves wrote: post #41

I has been a decade since I used KDE. It was eating too much memory of slow computer. I always missed a desktop environment for power users, instead of one aiming for the average user. Kde always the best one with this objective

Your opinion is a decade out of date :) Plasma 5 is very light, lighter even than XFCE.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by heavyset_go »

ashton314 wrote: post #88

Ugh! KDE is so pretty and so configurable except in the one way that I really need: I need an easy way to set Emacs-style keystrokes globally. Do this and I’m sold forever. (That aside, very exciting update!) Is there anything like Karabiner or AutoHotKey for KDE that lets you download predefined keyboard shortcuts?

Pretty sure you can customize what you want under the Standard Shortcuts and Global Shortcuts in KDE's settings.

Re: KDE Plasma 5.20

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Post by dTal »

dleslie wrote: post #94
shmerl wrote: post #75

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I've been using it for a long time and didn't notice any slowness (make sure file search is off). What's bugging me though is that subsurfaces clipping bug in Wayland session. Kmail is still broken in 5.19.x.

Critically, I tend to use low-power machines because I hate fan noise and excessive heat. I was using KDE on an RPi4 and Pinebook Pro. For basically all the computing that I do these machines are more than powerful enough; but apparently not for KDE (or Gnome3!)

For what it's worth, I use a T480. It has a nice quad core i7 processor and it draws 5 watts at idle. That's hardly more than your Pi4 or your Pinebook Pro. The fan never spins up unless I'm burning 100% CPU. I run Plasma 5 and it's always perfectly snappy.

I don't think you're gaining a lot, using such low end hardware.

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