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A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Alternative reading (2020 IT industry edition) Berates staff for 'not doing it right', 'I'll do it myself'. Fails in exactly the same way. Sketches a machine 'that should do it'. Hires engineer to 'make it work'. Files patent in own name.

Fair enough, the engineer was doing work for hire.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Semi-related: anyone here, like me, not find automated dishwashers very useful? To me it seems to take nearly the same amount of soap exposure, and time at the sink, to wash dishes by hand. Maybe if I needed gloves, I'd get frustrated with the smell your hands take on from dishgloves, but honestly washing dishes (particularly dishes that aren't precious) is pretty easy.

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Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Based purely on vacations and resorts, countries like Greece and Turkey have plenty of meat options.

I don't think that's what people mean by a "Mediterranean diet", vacations and resorts aren't really representative of a traditional diet, which is what I think people are referring to.

The most common turkish[1] food around here is the "kebab shop" which is the equivalent of a Californian burrito joint and is definitely meat centric. (Compare "kofta") As for greek, gyros and moussaka are two counterexamples.

[1] I've heard a story that Döner Kebap as served here was actually invented in Berlin, but that hasn't kept people with mediterranean complexions from asking me if I knew of any turkish food around and then being very happy when I gave them directions to the kebaberie.

Edit: menu from random restaurant in Istanbul: https://www.sirvan-sofrasi.com/menu-restaurant/

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Tip for the pro when buying a dishwasher. Make sure the distance between so lower and upper drawer is big enought that the "washing wheels" can still spin if you have your plates inside. My new Whirlpool dishwasher is nearly useless.

Can be hopeless with modern wine glasses also.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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The regulations on the wash cycles, including water volume, time, energy, and detergents, are very restrictive. Older units were not subject to the same regulations. For example, due to laws in California most commercial dish detergents won’t contain TSP (trisodium phosphate). I’ve been adding a bit of powdered TSP with the detergent pod to each load and it seems to have improved the results.

So fuck the environment, the rules are for other people?

It seems like you’re implying that laws in California apply also to people who live in other states?

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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There is a long, detailed rundown of someone who did just that: https://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/2l7z90/installed_a_co... ... some installers and people who maintain such machines for restaurants chimed in. Fairly interesting.

And clearly a message from the dude selling them not to do it: >Peeked at reddit for a moment before I fall asleep and one of our items is on the front page! I'm a product expert at the WebstaurantStore. Folks, I know this looks wonderful and all, but, as a rule, we really don't recommend putting commercial appliances in home kitchens. There are many things on our website that are fantastic for home use, but bad and…

That just reeks of "people are idiots and I don't wanna get sued" type ass covering. There's nothing about these machines that's particularly magical. They just aren't stupid proofed against the typical homeowner half-assery. Solution is don't be stupid and don't half ass the install (i.e. read the docs the manufacturer publishes about the machine and do something to mitigate the corners you inevitably need to cut in your specific case).

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It amazes me that after widespread adoption of dishwashers, we still build very customised bathrooms into houses that require manual labour to clean each surface - tiles/grout, basins, benchtops, toilets, floors, etc.

A bathroom that could be sealed and cleaned as though it was a dishwasher would be great. For everything but the toilet, lightly pressured spray of hot water would probably be sufficient. Throw the towels in the wash, close the waterproofed door, press the cleaning button and head off to work. Then the door/vents open to air it out after the cleaning process. There are public toilets that do it so surely we could make an attractive home version of that?

And if not the entire bathroom, at least have self-cleaning toilets rather than almost every single model being a slightly different shape so there's no standardised solution better than a toilet brush.

The lifetime cost of paid cleaners or just cleaning the bathroom yourself has to be worth something that could be invested into a bathroom upgrade when building.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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post #147

It amazes me that after widespread adoption of dishwashers, we still build very customised bathrooms into houses that require manual labour to clean each surface - tiles/grout, basins, benchtops, toilets, floors, etc. A bathroom that could be sealed and cleaned as though it was a dishwasher would be great. For everything but the toilet, lightly pressured spray of hot water would probably be sufficient. Throw the towe…

You're onto something here

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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I live alone, and still find the dishwasher to be the most useful appliance in my house. I cook a lot, and love not having to think about how many pots/pans/dishes I'll use and how I have to scrub them later. I don't do any prewash either. Everything goes straight into the dishwasher and comes out sparkling every time. Maybe I'm just really lucky with my machine/detergent. It's also great because I don't need extra s…

> I live alone, and still find the dishwasher to be the most useful appliance in my house. More useful than the washing machine?

I’d much prefer going to the laundromat over not having a dishwasher.

Re: A socialite who hated washing dishes invented the automated dishwasher

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Does anyone have experience with big industrial dishwashers? We had one at a school I visited, based in an old military barracks. It was about the size of a large fridge, extremely loud (used high pressure) and cleaned dishes spotless in about 15 seconds. I've wanted one of those ever since, along with one of those giant laundromat washing machines with shock absorbers that run a spin cycle in complete silence.

Unless you can uninstall someone else's broken one, fix it and install it in your home without F-ing it up you likely have no business owning industrial appliances. These things aren't made to plug and play anywhere any everywhere like consumer appliances are and you're gonna have to consider a bunch of little details in order to make them deliver good service. If you don't already know what that entails you're probably out of your league and the ownership experience will likely be less satisfying than several $500 disposable consumer models of the same time period.

Also if you're not gonna do all your own maintenance just forget about it and buy cheap disposable appliances. Skilled labor is just too expensive these days to do anything else. Also, many commercial operations that are small enough to not be able to do maintenance in house (hotel laundry is a good example) buy a fleet of consumer appliances with the extended warranty and buy more than they need to that when one or two are down at any one time it's a non-issue because doing that is actually cheaper than maintaining commercial equipment.

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