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Amnesty International India Halts Its Work in India Due to Government Reprisal

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Post by john4532452 »

malware7 wrote: post #106
john4532452 wrote: post #97

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> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…

Any source on the motives of Indian nationalism for the "strict implementation" of varna system?

Most of the BJP leaders are former RSS members including modi. Source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336

RSS ideology is to make india a hindu religous state. Hinduism is based on the vedic books which advocate varna system.

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Post by john4532452 »

susant321 wrote: post #138
john4532452 wrote: post #120

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Yes. The BJP government is backed by the RSS and most of the members of the BJP party including Modi is former member of RSS. RSS is a religious organization supporting the varna system.

This is a weird claim. I have never seen any healthy mind supports Varna system in India. Only few delusioned imagine that someone is working towards it. Come on guys!

No it is not. This is core principle of RSS https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/blogs/seeing-the-invisib...

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Post by malware7 »

john4532452 wrote: post #137
slevin063 wrote: post #109

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Not discounting the negative effects of the nationalism, but I don't think caste system is behind the current rise of nationalism. The prime minister himself is from the lower caste.

> The prime minister himself is from the lower caste. This does not change anything. Modi is just a pawn. He does not have any original ideology, he is there for power. Look at the number of brahmins and non-brahmins in the key position in the BJP. Look at the analysis here https://theprint.in/politics/ambedkar-on-its-agenda-but-bjp-... If you are still not convinced, look at what "Subramanian swamy" had to say when…

I like how you skip that the upper-castes who are in power were voted to power by a population which is majority lower-caste.

Total upper/forward caste - ~ 29 % OBC + SC + ST - ~71 %

BJP(NDA) vote share - 37 %

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_Backward_Class

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Post by sumedh »

malware7 wrote: post #122
sumedh wrote: post #65

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Maybe because social media helps demagogues spread their message?

Or is it that the monopoly of leftists over "the truth" is falling apart.

What is the "the truth"

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Post by malware7 »

john4532452 wrote: post #139
malware7 wrote: post #128

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Your opinion is not a valid source.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336

What is great source! BBC.

There is 0 instances of the word "varna" or "caste" on that article.

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Post by malware7 »

john4532452 wrote: post #141
malware7 wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any source on the motives of Indian nationalism for the "strict implementation" of varna system?

Most of the BJP leaders are former RSS members including modi. Source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336 RSS ideology is to make india a hindu religous state. Hinduism is based on the vedic books which advocate varna system.

Varna system is based on Manusmriti which came long after vedas.

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Post by john4532452 »

ravibhatt wrote: post #103
john4532452 wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hindu nationalism is just like any nationalism. There is a fundamental difference Indian nationalism and other countries nationalism. Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" which advocates stratification of society based on the birth and access to education is only allowed for the brahmins(priestly caste). This was the system implemented strictly before the Britishers arrived to India. No…

You seem to know more about the natives it seems; where are you quoting this from? "Indian nationalism is all about bringing back the "varna system" " ---- You have done a Phd in the subject-- any links?

I assume you are probably an NRI. This is well know to natives. Most of the BJP leaders are former RSS members including modi. Source https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29593336

RSS ideology is to make india a hindu religous state. Hinduism is based on the vedic books which advocate varna system.

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Post by deskamess »

ranjitcool1 wrote: post #54
deskamess wrote: post #42

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> in those countries where there is no democracy such as middle east, africa, china, etc Only one of those is a country. Do you actually think India is better off than South Africa or Botswana (these are actual countries).

Your line of questioning tells me you have little to no knowledge, period. Visit India and figure it out yourself. Comparing India to SA or Bowtswana tells me that You weren’t taught well, so not your fault, it’s ok, there is still time for you to go back to school.

Shucks... so sad I am unschooled.

> Comparing India to SA or Bowtswana

Have you been to Botswana? It is a pretty modern nation and a well run country. Lets look at some numbers and COMPARE.

GDP per capita (2017):

India: $1,980

Botswana: $7,894

China: $8,612

Botswana: has a better GDP/capita AND higher ranked democracy than India. Less corruption too (if you look it up). Always good to school yourself - with facts.

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Post by liar_brigade »

malware7 wrote: post #72
liar_brigade wrote: post #63

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Modi can't be always right just like Amnesty India. If they are so sure about honesty of their work, they should fight the court case instead of running away. Did you create an account just to bait here?

And your comments all over this thread are good examples of this. So, thanks for proving my point.

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Post by ashleshbiradar »

malware7 wrote: post #93
ashleshbiradar wrote: post #61

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shady foreign funding, please share some sources to back up your claim, or it is not a productive comment.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio...

that just says the government agencies raided the offices of AII, it doesn't prove any wrongdoing. Exactly the kind of harassment AII is talking about in the article linked above, only if you had read it in the first place before making his comment.
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